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post #1 of 5 (permalink) Old 07-24-2007, 10:44 PM Thread Starter
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difference between BJJ and jiu jitsu

I've been wondering if there is a difference between jiu jitsu and BJJ. A lot of the dojos near my house are jiu jitsu and i wasn't sure if it was the same as BJJ.
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post #2 of 5 (permalink) Old 07-25-2007, 08:59 AM
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I thought jj was a bit like a mixed martial art based on ground work and standing, and that bjj was judo- get your oponent on the ground + the submission parts of jj.
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JJJ has very little to none ground work.

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What's interesting is that, before WW2, Judo had TONS of ground work. It had been greatly influenced by Fusen Ryu JJJ, which focused most of its attention to groundfighting with submissions and such. They also did live sparring, similar to Kokodan Judo.

However, because the ground techniques in Kokodan Judo was becoming so prevalent at the time(too prevalent for Jigoro Kano's tastes), restrictions were put on ground work. This was to emphasize standing throws, and it worked, as is evident in modern Judo competition.

Another interesting fact, though, is that Kosen Judo greatly resembles BJJ. It's a branch of Judo, which broke off from Kokodan. It maintained the ground techniques of pre WW2 Judo.

However, its fair to say that the majority of JJJ doesn't do groundwork.

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bjj was formed from japanese jujitsu, but not in a straight line. judo came from japanese jujitsu, but mitsuyo maeda (the man to introduce brazil judo) was a student of jigoro kano who is, the founder of judo, kano turned maeda over to work with takeda motsuge as a primary sensei, and the founder of kosen judo style (the style introduced to carlos to launch bjj).

bjj is closer in similarities to judo, due to the simple fact of the sporting aspects. japanese jujitsu was not used for sporting it was invented for war. striking, small joint maniplulation, weapon attack and defence, and mant illegal sporting tactics.. ie. groin grab twist and pull, eye gouge, attacking the wind pipe.

i see jujitsu slowly coming up because the growth of sport jujitsu tournaments. it's pretty new and going to one of these reminds me of the old days in the ufc, as in "tkd vs judo"...

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