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post #11 of 12 (permalink) Old 08-26-2007, 11:47 AM
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I just want to look at what you've given us so far, so I'm going to break down your first post a little bit.

Originally Posted by Sutzu
Hi, i have a training problem and hope if you guys can share your thoughts and opinions to help me.

I'm 24 years old and very interested learning mma. My problem is that i don't know which one to choose as my main focus grappling area wrestling or bjj. So the question is which one to choose:

a)strong wrestling and basics of bjj/submission wrestling

(+)I think that i could be pretty good at wrestling because i'm quite strong(can penchpress
10x330lbs) and have told so by training partners.
(-)Too old to start wrestling?


b)strong bjj/submission wrestling and basics of wrestling

(+)if i'll take more interest to submissions maybe i can compete bjj/sw unlike wrestling where i'm too old to compete.
(-) I'm not sure if this b) alternative is so effective combination in mma than a)...
If you are going to be a successful grappler, you should be training both, and you should be training them alot.

I've trained with MMA fighters who think that just learning a little bit of BJJ and having good ground control is going to win fights, but against a submission fighter, those guys have not chance, because their jiu-jitsu isn't solid.

If you are thinking about becoming an MMA style grappler, learn both and learn as much of both of them as you can. At your age, you should be focussed on creating a well rounded game. If you were 15 and looking at competing in 3 or 4 years, then I'd suggest starting with one, but the fact is that it doesn't make sense to do that when single mindedness will make you a less complete fighter.

If you are 24 and competing in BJJ, good luck and stick to that as a training regimen, but if you actually want to be an MMA fighter, you should be training both and you should be figuring out how to mix them together. I don't know how many times I have to say this to new students: It's called "mixed martial arts," if you're not mixing something, you're not doing it right.

Training history:
(Started when i was 15)

Karate 3 years
Thaiboxing 1year
Boxing and Kickboxing both 3months
Shootfighting 1year

Weight training 8-9years
Unfortunatey, Karate isn't really helpful unless you are really, really good at it. Alot of the Canadian karate fighters have been training 8-15 years, so that probably will only help with you understanding of how distance works and how to control it.

Thai boxing and kickboxing are great things to know, but it doesn't look like you trained in them long enough for them to really be effective. If you want to fight, you are going to have to take at least one style of striking up again. I suggest kickboxing or muay Thai (especially muay Thai if you are talking about being a grappler), but the fact is that you really just need something that is going to keep you from getting KO'd.

Shootfighting should be helpful, but it really depends on who your teacher is. I know some guys that trained in "shootfighting" but I can easily out wrestle and control them because their teacher really had no clue what he was doing. And there are some guys that are really, really good at it. It's sort of a hit or miss thing.

The weight training should be good for your conditioning, but I suggest branching out into different styles of conditioning training (plyo, sled, etc.) because there's more to it than just weights, or even circuit training.

Hope that was helpful.

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post #12 of 12 (permalink) Old 08-27-2007, 03:46 PM
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i would suggest jiu jitsu yes wrestling would be good if you could find a place that teaches catch wrestling but that doesnt seem likely so wat i would do is do jiu jitsu about 4 times a week and wrestling 2 times a week but you need to commit to it or else it will be useless and age does not matter just look at randy coutour
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