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Old 10-14-2007, 05:06 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I definitely agree that getting choked out is no fun. There is the body's initial physical reaction, which is to tense up, and that just sucks because you lose a certain amount of connection and it makes it easier for your opponent to tighten his legs, which is how you lock in pretty much any choke.

I've been choked out before, but it's mostly in gi grappling. I've gotten very good at defending chokes in no-gi, I just learning how to defend the lapel now. The trick with no-gi is to be aware of your neck. When you shoot in for a double or single leg, keep your shoulders back and your head postured. When your opponent has your back, keep your hands protecting your neck and posture your back.

I think everybody who has trained BJJ has been choked out, and most MMA guys have been in training. I've never been choked out in a fight, but that's because I get choked out in training.
Your reference to gi chokes reminds me of the rudimentary judo training that I received at the local YMCA some years ago, and it raises a question in my mind:I am even wondering if we are talking about the same thing,that is,when you are choked out in MMA, is it a true choke,or is it what TV wrestlers have popularized under the name "The Sleeper HOld," where unconsciousness is caused by pressure on the carotid artery? By the way, is "The Sleeper Hold" legal in MMA? If being choked out,as we have been talking about is a true judo strangulation technique,is there a difference in what you experience being choked out and being rendered unconscious by "The Sleeper Hold?"
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Old 10-14-2007, 06:34 PM   #12 (permalink)
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First off its extremely frustrating when your getting choked out, your body automaticly tries to defend itself, you tense up. Then your head gets really heavy, you feel queezy, your vision becomes a little blurred, then your head gets light, your hearing starts to fade, its VERY hard to think, then you black out, without really knowing.

Most of the time when you wake up your clueless, and your head REALLY hurts from the blood rushing back, and youl be dizzy for a little bit.
That is pretty much a perfect explanation.
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Old 10-14-2007, 06:41 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I want to add that if you keep your eyes opened while you are being choked out it feels like they are going to pop out of your head. And guillotine chokes suck. You get a freaking goofy look on your face and it usually hurts and if you get in a crappy guillotine where the guy refuses to let go of it even though it is obvious he is not going to tap you with it then your neck will usually hurt afterwards. Sometimes it hurts for like 3 or 4 days. I especially hate it when you pass someone's guard and you are sitting there with the fool mounted or in side control and they STIL wont let it go! Thanks for listening to me whine and complain about crappy guillotine chokes.
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Old 10-14-2007, 07:39 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Basically I got choked out by some guy who couldn't feel me tapping, as soon as I woke up I couldn't actually stand up cause my neck was in so much pain it was unbelievable. The choke he had in was a guillotine, he couldn't hear me say anything, my hands were trapped and he was cranking my neck at the same time. I've never rolled with him since, the bastard.
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Old 10-14-2007, 09:09 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Ferdelance.

Gi chokes use the same principle as a sleeper hold. They work in many different ways and, because of the grip points, have many better angles.

A sleeper hold is the same idea and, yes, it is legal in most MMA organizations from what I've heard.

Hope that was helpful. All the other posts on this thread a good. Repped for tomato sauce.
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Old 10-21-2007, 10:03 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Man, I was going to say the same thing about the eyes. When I look back at my first RNC, I remember specifically my eyes feeling like Arnold's in Total Recall. Plus I probably had that goofy scared look on my face, like "oh sheeeit he got me" and I'm OUT.
Bravo on the tomato sauce. I had a sweet mental image of my mom wearing a big apron and 4 oz oven mitts choking me out.
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Old 11-04-2007, 07:57 AM   #17 (permalink)
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i almost have a few times it doesnt really hurt for me it just feels like your underwater and you want to get up and get water im actually curious to get choked out lol
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