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Salty22 · 09-16-2007, 06:50 AM

ive heard this said around here a little bit and im not sure what it means, can someone explain?

lakaidude · 09-16-2007, 03:30 PM

no gi is also known as submission wrestling.gi is traditional bjj.

**wukkadb** · 09-16-2007, 04:46 PM

No Gi:

Gi:

No gi depends on athleticism more than Gi, and Gi is also a lot more technical.

Fedor>all · 09-16-2007, 05:08 PM

Guys, I think I've finally found a BJJ school.

Alliance BJJ Canada - Dragan Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu

I'm not sure what I should pursue though, Gi or no Gi? I've heard that making the transition to MMA without a Gi, when you've trained with a Gi can be very tough. Your thoughts (on this and the facility I've linked you to)?

**wukkadb** · 09-16-2007, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Fedor>all

Guys, I think I've finally found a BJJ school.

Alliance BJJ Canada - Dragan Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu

I'm not sure what I should pursue though, Gi or no Gi? I've heard that making the transition to MMA without a Gi, when you've trained with a Gi can be very tough. Your thoughts (on this and the facility I've linked you to)?

Train both. I think it's a lot smarter to start with primarily Gi and do 1-2 No Gi classes a week. You learn the bjj game a lot faster and more technically with Gi, and the transition isn't difficult at all IMO. I think learning Gi first gives you an advantage if anything

Fedor>all · 09-16-2007, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by wukkadb

Train both. I think it's a lot smarter to start with primarily Gi and do 1-2 No Gi classes a week. You learn the bjj game a lot faster and more technically with Gi, and the transition isn't difficult at all IMO. I think learning Gi first gives you an advantage if anything

Thanks for your opinion, I'm a uni student so I'm kind of strapped for time and cash, so I'll probably be only able to get 1-2 lessons a week. I'll focus on Gi training I think, then once I get some free time I'll start taking No Gi classes as well.

**wukkadb** · 09-16-2007, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Fedor>all

Thanks for your opinion, I'm a uni student so I'm kind of strapped for time and cash, so I'll probably be only able to get 1-2 lessons a week. I'll focus on Gi training I think, then once I get some free time I'll start taking No Gi classes as well.

That's what I would suggest. Gi training gives you a better understanding of the technical aspect of bjj, and you learn how to do everything without the athleticism factor of No gi coming into play.

**IronMan** · 09-16-2007, 07:59 PM

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That's what I would suggest. Gi training gives you a better understanding of the technical aspect of bjj, and you learn how to do everything without the athleticism factor of No gi coming into play.

That said, gi will also teach you alot of moves that don't work on the street. You can use collar chokes in a fight, but if your opponents only wearing a t-shirt then it might tear and then you have to figure out a quick transition. That's really not the way you want to lose a submission.

If you can't train both and are getting started, though, I'd agree with wukka. You definitely want to start with gi so that you gain a sense of the fundamentals. It's also much easier to transition from gi to no-gi, because when you go from no-gi to gi you have to learn to defend against and use an entirely different type of attack with added weight. With no-gi, you are shedding weight, allowing yourself to be more slippery, you don't have to worry about your feet getting caught in the gi while you're in spider-guard (one of my personal hang-ups) and you don't have to worry about collar chokes anymore.

I do suggest, though, considering neck-cranks and leglocks, which you probably won't learn in a basics gi class. Just be aware of things like can openers and jawgrinders, as well as achilles locks, because those things get alot of guys trying to break into advanced divisions of BJJ, submission grappling or MMA hung up.

Best of luck with your training.

Fedor>all · 09-16-2007, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by IronMan

That said, gi will also teach you alot of moves that don't work on the street. You can use collar chokes in a fight, but if your opponents only wearing a t-shirt then it might tear and then you have to figure out a quick transition. That's really not the way you want to lose a submission.

If you can't train both and are getting started, though, I'd agree with wukka. You definitely want to start with gi so that you gain a sense of the fundamentals. It's also much easier to transition from gi to no-gi, because when you go from no-gi to gi you have to learn to defend against and use an entirely different type of attack with added weight. With no-gi, you are shedding weight, allowing yourself to be more slippery, you don't have to worry about your feet getting caught in the gi while you're in spider-guard (one of my personal hang-ups) and you don't have to worry about collar chokes anymore.

I do suggest, though, considering neck-cranks and leglocks, which you probably won't learn in a basics gi class. Just be aware of things like can openers and jawgrinders, as well as achilles locks, because those things get alot of guys trying to break into advanced divisions of BJJ, submission grappling or MMA hung up.

Best of luck with your training.

Thanks for your advice, heads-up, and the luck. I've just started reading your logs, best of luck at your upcoming BJJ tournament

WaCkO92 · 09-23-2007, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Fedor>all

Guys, I think I've finally found a BJJ school.

Alliance BJJ Canada - Dragan Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu

I'm not sure what I should pursue though, Gi or no Gi? I've heard that making the transition to MMA without a Gi, when you've trained with a Gi can be very tough. Your thoughts (on this and the facility I've linked you to)?

dude that place looks like the shit, such a nice facility

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