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post #11 of 15 (permalink) Old 09-22-2007, 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by super ninja
hi everyone. I was wondering what is the best way to get out of half gaurd or is there anything you can do from the top to tap the other person out.


in ones half is step out into scarf hold, i use the topside o f my free foot to pin thier inner thigh down so i can step through.

if i have someone in my half i like to pull into butterfly and jack them up going for a sweep, or tuck inside and escape

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post #12 of 15 (permalink) Old 09-24-2007, 12:25 PM Thread Starter
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Originally Posted by IronMan
The basic BJJ theory is that from half guard you should stuff your opponents leg and go to full guard. Really, though, I don't believe in "position that submission" the way that it is generally preached. (I'll explain why if anybodies interested)

Here are my gameplans:

From the Bottom

My go to submission is the leglock, the problem is that from half guard you have to flip your legs to get ideal leverage. Still, it's worth trying.

The other option, as has been mentioned, is the guillotine. It works on the bottom of half guard.

While alot of people suggest kimura, the technique I have found most effective is the Americana. If you jam your elbow into your opponent's throat, they generally roll back off of you (also because it relieves the pressure in the lock for a second) and you can follow them up for a sweep, and you have the joint lock to use as a way to distract them while you move to sidecontrol.

From the top

Generally, all of the things that I do from half guard are to distract my opponent while I get to side control or mount. I crank them like full submissions, but I also advance to position as a way of improving leverage, if the submission calls for it.

My first suggestion is always the throat grinder. Establish your base and control yourself and then grind your forearm into your opponent's throat. It almost always loosens the guard and if you maintain control then you're set.

My second (if they are careful about protecting their throat) is to transition to neck cranks like canopeners. While they aren't generally legal in BJJ, they do work in MMA and are very effective, though they don't always get the tap, they work sometimes.

My third is to look for a kimura or an americana. As has been said, you don't have great leverage, so their hard to get, but if you sink them in, they will cause some pain and frustration and, hopefully, give you the opportunity to advance position.

Hope that was helpful.
Thanks ironman thats really helpfull. What exactly is anamericana
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post #13 of 15 (permalink) Old 09-24-2007, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by super ninja
Thanks ironman thats really helpfull. What exactly is anamericana
You might know it as a keylock.
YouTube - Gracie Insider January 2007 Technique of Month - Americana This is an americana from the mount, but you can do it from other positions as well.
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Originally Posted by super ninja
Thanks ironman thats really helpfull. What exactly is anamericana
Americana is just one of many names, it's also called a keylock, a lateral keylock, shiho-nage (though it's just the submission in BJJ)...

Wawa's video explained it pretty well.

As for the mini feud with ozz and BJJBoy, their both submissions that work from the position.

If you don't believe a guillotine from half guard is effective, you're just not sinking it in right. While generally people consider the full, closed guard ideal, the half guard one has finished matches in the past, and I've used it on the mat plenty of times.

Going for a leglock from the bottom is just my perfered way of doing things, because I don't like to put myself in a position to have an opponent pound on ribs. That's not the say the guillotine is not as good, it's just not my thing. Plus, I've found that most people generally aren't looking to defend a leglock from half.

Ideal is just a matter of taste, it's all about what you're comfortable using and what you can use effectively.

Great stuff, kishiro.

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O I see its a figure four. thanks everyone.
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