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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 09-18-2007, 06:24 PM Thread Starter
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hi everyone. I was wondering what is the best way to get out of half gaurd or is there anything you can do from the top to tap the other person out.

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You could go for a kimura or like a side choke.
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I would go Brabo or a kneebar/Toe hold
And Ninja your not going to get a Guilotine in half gurad
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You have no clue what your talking about.

Getting a guillotine in half guard is extremely easy.
And how are you gonna get a kneebar if hes on top of you tightly.

Dont post when you dont know jack shit about.
The thread starter was asking what he could do from the top position in half guard not bottom.
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Thank everyone. Whats the best way to get out and go for side?
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You have no clue what your talking about.

Getting a guillotine in half guard is extremely easy.
And how are you gonna get a kneebar if hes on top of you tightly.

Dont post when you dont know jack shit about.
Your such a dick head take your own advice
Going for a arm in guillotine is harder than a barbo and not very effective
And you can so do kneebars from bottom half gurad Ive done it plenty of times
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Thank everyone. Whats the best way to get out and go for side?
Do you know how to use the instep of the foot that's not caught in half guard to push down on the other person's leg so you can pull your leg out?
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hi everyone. I was wondering what is the best way to get out of half gaurd or is there anything you can do from the top to tap the other person out.

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The basic BJJ theory is that from half guard you should stuff your opponents leg and go to full guard. Really, though, I don't believe in "position that submission" the way that it is generally preached. (I'll explain why if anybodies interested)

Here are my gameplans:

From the Bottom

My go to submission is the leglock, the problem is that from half guard you have to flip your legs to get ideal leverage. Still, it's worth trying.

The other option, as has been mentioned, is the guillotine. It works on the bottom of half guard.

While alot of people suggest kimura, the technique I have found most effective is the Americana. If you jam your elbow into your opponent's throat, they generally roll back off of you (also because it relieves the pressure in the lock for a second) and you can follow them up for a sweep, and you have the joint lock to use as a way to distract them while you move to sidecontrol.

From the top

Generally, all of the things that I do from half guard are to distract my opponent while I get to side control or mount. I crank them like full submissions, but I also advance to position as a way of improving leverage, if the submission calls for it.

My first suggestion is always the throat grinder. Establish your base and control yourself and then grind your forearm into your opponent's throat. It almost always loosens the guard and if you maintain control then you're set.

My second (if they are careful about protecting their throat) is to transition to neck cranks like canopeners. While they aren't generally legal in BJJ, they do work in MMA and are very effective, though they don't always get the tap, they work sometimes.

My third is to look for a kimura or an americana. As has been said, you don't have great leverage, so their hard to get, but if you sink them in, they will cause some pain and frustration and, hopefully, give you the opportunity to advance position.

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Plenty of times eh, against who? younger white belts?

Guillotine from half not effective?! Thats like saying guillotine from closed guard is not effective!
No against bigger and stonger people. Ironman just said that going for a leg lock is ideal. You underhook the leg then on that same side blast the leg oer and get your hips out. A guillotine from on top half gurad? It is different from falling back into full guard but trying to finish it from top is not great.
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No against bigger and stonger people. Ironman just said that going for a leg lock is ideal. You underhook the leg then on that same side blast the leg oer and get your hips out. A guillotine from on top half gurad? It is different from falling back into full guard but trying to finish it from top is not great.

a half guard leg attack i do once in a while is i shuck my opponet to the side i sit up from the bottom figure four thier trapped leg grab top of thier foot and sit back intothe hold, the effect is a calf slicer.

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