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Old 09-27-2007, 02:36 AM   #11 (permalink)
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ive had a pretty bad experience with beginners..they go so hard and spontaneous relying on their physical abilities than technique...
its weird coz ive also been given a harder time from newcomers than more xperienced ppl i roll with

im pretty pissed off right now because of some new comer tonight...he got me in an arm bar and i tapped (w/ my fingers) as soon as i knew i couldnt get out, but he kept cranking the leverage for about 4-5 seconds til i could realy feel the pain in my elbow joint.

Im really annoyed right now because of that ***got..i cant wait til its time to bang on the feet against that guy...
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Old 09-27-2007, 02:44 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I have had some experences like this as well. some of the new people especially the adults just bend arms and stuff with no technique all they use is strenght and when you say that wont work in a comp because they will be grappling people there own size and strenght they look at you like they are thinking "yeah right bud your just mad because you lost"
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Old 09-27-2007, 04:16 PM   #13 (permalink)
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If you get a noob on his back its over he won't know what to do. In my school when a new guy comes in we lay the smack down to show them who's boss.
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Old 09-27-2007, 05:56 PM   #14 (permalink)
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what pisses me off the most is their disregard for safety...im never rolling with those idiots again..
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Old 09-28-2007, 06:02 AM   #15 (permalink)
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whats your strength like? if you hate rolling with beginning its probably cause they're much stronger. IF your a strong guy who has good technique, beginners are easy.
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Old 09-28-2007, 11:55 AM   #16 (permalink)
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im strong.....im 145 bt the beginner guy who i was rollin w/ was at least 180ish
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Old 09-28-2007, 04:45 PM   #17 (permalink)
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whats your strength like? if you hate rolling with beginning its probably cause they're much stronger. IF your a strong guy who has good technique, beginners are easy.
Actually, I think he's reffering to how many noobs "spaz" full-bore into a submission hold. You could be letting them just practice a technique, and they'll crank into it "going slow." It's even worst when you're rolling, because they'll jump on a sub with reckless abandon and not secure it into a tap. It's the same reason why I wear a cup and mouth gaurd every time I roll. I've been elbowed and knee'd more times in the face and groin rolling than I ever have doing stand-up work.
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I have had some experences like this as well. some of the new people especially the adults just bend arms and stuff with no technique all they use is strenght and when you say that wont work in a comp because they will be grappling people there own size and strenght they look at you like they are thinking "yeah right bud your just mad because you lost"
Hahaha that's probably what the guy I was talking about in my original post was thinking when I gave him some advice. I hate that feeling.

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whats your strength like? if you hate rolling with beginning its probably cause they're much stronger. IF your a strong guy who has good technique, beginners are easy.
Ehh I'm pretty weak so I rely on my long and flexible limbs and technique. And since I don't practice BJJ much my technique isn't even that great, so a reckless and strong beginner can cause me a lot of problems in sparring.
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Old 01-06-2008, 11:23 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I kind of equate grappling newcomers to playing poker with vacationers in a casino. There's rarely logic to what they're going to do... which makes it more interesting. As the biggest guy in our class (second only to the instructor.. I'm 6'2 230lbs) I can tell when my size has an advantage. Particularly with my longer legs, I can use the rubber guard fairly easily... and I can power out of lazy submission attempts. However, there is another guy in the class that's submitted me and is obviously less experienced (he is stronger than me though)... and it pissed me off to no end (specifically because he was trash talking ahead of time). Sometimes you just gotta learn to blow it off. The next class I tapped him in 30 seconds. shit happens.
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Old 12-30-2008, 01:27 AM   #20 (permalink)
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This was a fascinating thread. Sounds like people should film newcomers to see what techniques they're using. I don't know the rules of BJJ, but with MMA I would think that if it works it should be applied.

Maybe there's some wisdom to be picked up from novices. Goodness knows musicians have always been open to learning new techniques from newcomers. Drumming is a classic example where self-taught players often hit with their forearm instead of their wrist on the snare. It's much more fatiguing, but it also makes a great snap sound.
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