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Old 12-28-2006, 11:31 PM   #11 (permalink)
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another good way is to simply straighten one leg out on an angle and as soon as u feel the other persons guard open underhook one or bot legs with both ur hands and just pause like u normally would from that position
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Old 12-28-2006, 11:36 PM   #12 (permalink)
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learned this from a friend who was pretty serious in becoming an mma fighter, he moved to las vegas and we lost touch, however...

When we trained the best/most effective move he tought was how to pass someone's guard. I can't believe how easy it is to learn and apply, yet I have NEVER seen it done in an mma event.

Try this out and let me know how it works.

Get into someone's guard(them on their back with their legs around your waist, closed guard).
Tell them it is there goal to keep you in their guard, not to let you escape(this way you can determine it's effectiveness).

How it works:
Try to lift your head to creat some space/distance, with each of your elbows, place each elbow on the inner part of your opponents knee, and simply apply pressure.
You will immediatly have them open their guard, now it's up to you to determine if you want to jump to a side mount, stand, or try to obtain full mount.
I have found it's easier to get into side mount, but please, try this and let me know if you find any flaws.
cupping the elbows will stop this
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Old 11-10-2007, 02:27 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Those are all great ways to pass the gaurd but they all have counters which can lead to you being swept or submitted. The first and most important step that you all are missing is controlling your opponents arms by grabbing them at the bicep and extending them and making sure your elbows are on the floor. Simultaneously, you want to drop all your weight on his CHEST staying LOW to the ground. This pretty much disables all his attacks. I need to point out that if your opponent tries any kind of escapes by using his legs he will have to open his gaurd from which you can easily pass by putting your L-Knee on the top of his R-Thigh and pinning that leg so that you can bring your back leg (R-leg)over his, followed by your L-leg. This knee technique prevents you from being caught in half gaurd. Now if he's doesnt try to escape you have bought yourself some time to decide which technique your going to apply without having the threat of your opponent attacking you. If you have trouble getting your oppnts arms distract him with a neck crank or choke first then grab his biceps.

I love MARCELO GARCIA'S gaurd pass bc it works so beautiful on any body type and leads to submission. From the above position, you basically pin an arm(Left) on the floor at the wrist with your R-Hand, post your head on Opnts chest and stand on your two feet (Tripod position). Now reach under his body with your L-Hand and grab his L-Wrist (Its easier to do if you take a step or two to the right with your R-Foot followed by your L-foot). You now have his L-Hand pinned behind his back by your L-Hand. Grab behind his head with your right and stand/squat. With your right hand break his gaurd(Legs) by pushing down on his L-Knee. You now broke his gaurd and he falls but don't let go of his L-hand behind his back. Its your choice on what position you want. You can mount, side mount, scarf hold, get his back, or better yet just submit him by grabbing behind his head with your R-Hand and pulling his arm up behind his back for the tap!!! Remember you have to DRILL this just like any other move so you can do it quickly and smoothly. Many opponents swear I'm on steriods bc of the LEVERAGE this technique gives ME!! I hope you guys find this helpful bc its one of the safest and best passes I know besides one other that I may have to charge you for. LOL just joking!!!

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Old 11-10-2007, 04:18 PM   #14 (permalink)
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learned this from a friend who was pretty serious in becoming an mma fighter, he moved to las vegas and we lost touch, however...

When we trained the best/most effective move he tought was how to pass someone's guard. I can't believe how easy it is to learn and apply, yet I have NEVER seen it done in an mma event.

Try this out and let me know how it works.

Get into someone's guard(them on their back with their legs around your waist, closed guard).
Tell them it is there goal to keep you in their guard, not to let you escape(this way you can determine it's effectiveness).

How it works:
Try to lift your head to creat some space/distance, with each of your elbows, place each elbow on the inner part of your opponents knee, and simply apply pressure.
You will immediatly have them open their guard, now it's up to you to determine if you want to jump to a side mount, stand, or try to obtain full mount.
I have found it's easier to get into side mount, but please, try this and let me know if you find any flaws.
OK, this is really, really basic BJJ. While it's pretty bland, I also have to say that, for the guys who are serious about going into this sport (or grappling in general) as an amateur or a professional, this is a really good way to get caught in a hip sweep (or the kimura or guillotine that come off of the hip sweep) or scizzor sweep and end up mounted.

Personally, I prefer a standup pass for MMA or streetfighting. The technique is as follows:

1) pin your opponent down with one hand so he doesn't pop up into a rubber guard or pull your head down.

2) stand up and throw your hips forward, this will open your opponents guard.

3) proceed to pass or attack with strikes from there.

It allows for a few very basic counters and counter-counters. The first is that a BJJ fighter will try and drop his knees together, grab your heels and pull them back, tossing you onto your back. (it's a good sweep when it's used as the standing fighter throws his hips through). If your opponent does that, you can stack him by bringing his legs even with his shoulders and sprawling your feet back (which sets you up for a perfect pass) or dropping a knee on his face (if the rules allow).

The second counter is the bridge-under counter. Your opponent will bridge their back, trap one of your feet and attempt to bridge under and put you on your stomach. As they do this you have to do the following:

1) center yourself.

2) grab one, or both, of your opponents achilles tendons and start to control it in order to sink in the achilles lock.

3) sit on your opponent as they try and bridge out. this will set up a cool, almost professional wrestling style of leglock, and if you slip one of your knees in, you can start to work a leg isolation.

This is my personal favorite way to pass guard, and once you've done the standup guard break, there are a few cool passes (including spinning passes and folkstyle wrestling pins). I can go into detail about those for people who are curious.

I should also mention that if you do this pass right, keeping your elbows in and your upper body straight, you cannot be submitted. You don't give your opponent your arms and you keep your head out of choke position.

Good thread.
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Old 11-10-2007, 06:16 PM   #15 (permalink)
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This is a pretty basic guard pass, but definitely will work against people with limited grappling knowledge. My favorite way to break the guard involves standing up usually, or sticking my knee in their butt, or a combination of the two.
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Old 11-10-2007, 06:41 PM   #16 (permalink)
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wow I thought that was the most basic beginers pass that there was. The great thing is as soon as he grabs your "gi" and starts digging in, just grab an ankle and they immediatly let go. And alot of guys still wont release even if your digging in. Not a great guard pass IMO
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Old 11-10-2007, 07:29 PM   #17 (permalink)
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yea wen people do that to me i can just stand the pain long enough to grab their arms and if you do it with one arm thats just calling for a triangle
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Old 11-10-2007, 08:40 PM   #18 (permalink)
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learned this from a friend who was pretty serious in becoming an mma fighter, he moved to las vegas and we lost touch, however...

When we trained the best/most effective move he tought was how to pass someone's guard. I can't believe how easy it is to learn and apply, yet I have NEVER seen it done in an mma event.

Try this out and let me know how it works.

Get into someone's guard(them on their back with their legs around your waist, closed guard).
Tell them it is there goal to keep you in their guard, not to let you escape(this way you can determine it's effectiveness).

How it works:
Try to lift your head to creat some space/distance, with each of your elbows, place each elbow on the inner part of your opponents knee, and simply apply pressure.
You will immediatly have them open their guard, now it's up to you to determine if you want to jump to a side mount, stand, or try to obtain full mount.
I have found it's easier to get into side mount, but please, try this and let me know if you find any flaws.
First, some people (like me) can take a lot of pressure on their inner thighs. Other people, especially newer people, immediately open up.

Lately, my strategy for dealing with this kind of pass is to keep my guard open. I've been working on keeping my guard open because I rely too much on controlling my opponent in my guard since it is really strong.
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Old 11-11-2007, 11:31 PM   #19 (permalink)
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This is a very effective guard pass for me when i roll. But i use one elbow and the other arm is used to control the opponents body so he cant reach my elbows with his hands properly.

You might say its not effective but im stronger than everyone ive rolled with and i think thats why its effective for me. I dont try to rip there thighs, i do it hard but patiently, the stronger guards usually can last around 5 seconds, but they all open after that. alot of the guys reach for my arms to pull it but they cant budge it.
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Old 11-12-2007, 01:56 AM   #20 (permalink)
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This is a very effective guard pass for me when i roll. But i use one elbow and the other arm is used to control the opponents body so he cant reach my elbows with his hands properly.

You might say its not effective but im stronger than everyone ive rolled with and i think thats why its effective for me. I dont try to rip there thighs, i do it hard but patiently, the stronger guards usually can last around 5 seconds, but they all open after that. alot of the guys reach for my arms to pull it but they cant budge it.
Once you start rolling with blue belts and higher, you will quickly realise relying on your strength will be detrimental to you. If you are stronger than everyone, you should focus even more on technique.
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