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post #1 of 23 (permalink) Old 09-11-2006, 10:23 PM Thread Starter
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Great way to pass full Guard:

learned this from a friend who was pretty serious in becoming an mma fighter, he moved to las vegas and we lost touch, however...

When we trained the best/most effective move he tought was how to pass someone's guard. I can't believe how easy it is to learn and apply, yet I have NEVER seen it done in an mma event.

Try this out and let me know how it works.

Get into someone's guard(them on their back with their legs around your waist, closed guard).
Tell them it is there goal to keep you in their guard, not to let you escape(this way you can determine it's effectiveness).

How it works:
Try to lift your head to creat some space/distance, with each of your elbows, place each elbow on the inner part of your opponents knee, and simply apply pressure.
You will immediatly have them open their guard, now it's up to you to determine if you want to jump to a side mount, stand, or try to obtain full mount.
I have found it's easier to get into side mount, but please, try this and let me know if you find any flaws.
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post #2 of 23 (permalink) Old 09-11-2006, 10:34 PM
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learned this from a friend who was pretty serious in becoming an mma fighter, he moved to las vegas and we lost touch, however...

When we trained the best/most effective move he tought was how to pass someone's guard. I can't believe how easy it is to learn and apply, yet I have NEVER seen it done in an mma event.

Try this out and let me know how it works.

Get into someone's guard(them on their back with their legs around your waist, closed guard).
Tell them it is there goal to keep you in their guard, not to let you escape(this way you can determine it's effectiveness).

How it works:
Try to lift your head to creat some space/distance, with each of your elbows, place each elbow on the inner part of your opponents knee, and simply apply pressure.
You will immediatly have them open their guard, now it's up to you to determine if you want to jump to a side mount, stand, or try to obtain full mount.
I have found it's easier to get into side mount, but please, try this and let me know if you find any flaws.
The defense for this is to grab the opponents elbows and keep them from digging into your legs.

This is a good way to break gaurd though...but not fool proof when you know the defense

Good post
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^ very true , if you are training in a legit Jiu Jitsu class, the 1st thing the person in guard would do (if they know the basics) is grab and control you're wrists

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The better way in my opinion is to do it with one leg, You post out with lets say your right leg then you dig in the tigh with your right elbow without lifting your head from his chest. if he grabs your leg post back and you wont give up position, then start over. Once his guard is broken you slide your right leg through and you have half guard and work from there. less risky and very effective. I have never rolled with gi so i dont Know if it works there but it should.
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To break gaurd, make sure your control your opponents hips, if his hips can follow you, you will not be successful. Use one arm, to push on on his hips - be sure to keep your arm in tight to your body, trap his midsection to the mat, bring one knee to his center line (basically you will put one knee in under his butt with your knee being on his tailbone), while pushing his hips down and making sure that your head is up, back straight (proper posture is key), you will then twist your upper body like you are turning around to see who is behind you. When done properly, this will break his closed gaurd to open gaurd, and you can begin passing from there.
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learned this from a friend who was pretty serious in becoming an mma fighter, he moved to las vegas and we lost touch, however...

When we trained the best/most effective move he tought was how to pass someone's guard. I can't believe how easy it is to learn and apply, yet I have NEVER seen it done in an mma event.

Try this out and let me know how it works.

Get into someone's guard(them on their back with their legs around your waist, closed guard).
Tell them it is there goal to keep you in their guard, not to let you escape(this way you can determine it's effectiveness).

How it works:
Try to lift your head to creat some space/distance, with each of your elbows, place each elbow on the inner part of your opponents knee, and simply apply pressure.
You will immediatly have them open their guard, now it's up to you to determine if you want to jump to a side mount, stand, or try to obtain full mount.
I have found it's easier to get into side mount, but please, try this and let me know if you find any flaws.
hmmm, thats the very first way we learned to pass guard LOL

They may or may not open their guard depending on how much the train that, we train it alot so it takes alot of pressure for me to open up once they open up you can either slip your knee and pass to half guard or you could under hook a leg and throw it over so that you land in side mount, a much mnore dominant position.

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The better way in my opinion is to do it with one leg, You post out with lets say your right leg then you dig in the tigh with your right elbow without lifting your head from his chest. if he grabs your leg post back and you wont give up position, then start over. Once his guard is broken you slide your right leg through and you have half guard and work from there. less risky and very effective. I have never rolled with gi so i dont Know if it works there but it should.
depends on how much the other guys knows, you dont want to leave your head on their chest thats a NO NO.

we also train a nice choke for when somone leaves their head on your chest like that.

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How does that go? is it rap your gi around his neck and squeeze. Like i said i know nothing of Gi jutsu
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How does that go? is it rap your gi around his neck and squeeze. Like i said i know nothing of Gi jutsu
With the Gi, I think you are definitely baiting a collar choke in that position. I would probably imagine the most basic being either a cross-arm or thrusting collar choke. From their (depending on who you're rolling with) you may also fall victom to a number of clock chokes, or sleeve chokes. Hell... Even with the guys arms up around his ears, I could probably imagine you could adapt a variation on the Anaconda or Arm Triangle is they have a gi on.

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Passing the Guard

Passing the guard is one of the major tools one should have in his/her BJJ arsenal. If there was one skill to be obtained in BJJ, this would be the one!! If you can consistently pass someone¹s guard with ease, you will take so much away from their ability to control you. Add to this some good hold down skills

The principles and guidelines to passing the guard:

Principles and Guidelines:


Space

create space to uncross the opponent's ankles
no space while you¹re in the process of passing his guard

Weight

keep your weight centered on the opponent's upper torso while passing

Formula (this is a simple way to remember where you are in the process of passing )

Step one - establish base and posture
Step two - uncross the opponent's ankles
Step three - secure and control the opponent's hips
Step four - pass under or over the opponent's leg
NOTE: The above formula will work with or without a gi!

Once you understand these principles and guidelines, you can figure a lot of different ways to pass

When you begin to put the basic ways of passing the guard together into two and three technique combinations, the amount of energy you spend to pass will begin to decrease. When you can put five and six techniques together into a solid combination, now you¹re flowing. AND, when you can pass your opponent¹s guard and talk to another student about politics, mathematics or sports, while your in the process of passing their guard...............well, now you¹re REALLY flowin'!

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