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Old 10-18-2007, 07:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Well....I need some help fellas so any info I can get......the better....

was rolling today and everything was goin great as usual...until I got teamed up with someone with some really long legs........

We were paired for a 3 min round and it absolutely sucked.......

We started with me in his closed guard and it ended there...it was basically one minute of me posturing up and trying to create space to pop open his guard, followed by 2 minutes of him bodytriangling me from the bottom...and I couldnt get the damn thing open!!!.......it was so frustrating!!....

what do you do in this position? I tend to have trouble popping the guards of long legged oppenents.... I wasnt in any danger really....because I really only had to be conscious about arm attacks and a standard guillotine...he never tried to sweep...and never unlocked his legs once!!.....

I just tried to get good posture..work my way down to his lower stomach often succesfully...knee in middle of butt....good balance.... but I couldnt push off....just to tight....

The only thing I could think of after the time was up was.... man.....I dint try a standing guard pass... Is this what I should do??? Anyone know of any high percentage and safe ones???

Im good at passing a think.....just not opening...
Thanks so much in advance for your time....appreciate it guys...
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Old 10-18-2007, 07:36 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I think standing up to break his guard would be a good idea. You can also stand up, do the knee in butt, then sit back down, which should work against someone with longer legs.
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Old 10-18-2007, 10:22 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 10-19-2007, 01:35 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Are you digging your elbows into his hip/inner thigh? Three minutes of point specific pressure should make him adjust.
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Old 10-19-2007, 08:30 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Are you digging your elbows into his hip/inner thigh? Three minutes of point specific pressure should make him adjust.
Yep, this works really well when people do it on me . . . it always seems to open up the guard. There's some kind of pressure point just above the knee on the inner thigh. If you dig your elbow into that for long enough, the guard should open right up.
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Old 10-19-2007, 12:23 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Eat onions and garlic for two days before the fight. The morning of the bout smoke half of a cigar. An hour before the fight, eat a scallion, smoke the other half of the cigar, and drink a double espresso.

If he has real long legs, eat a piece of salmon or some tuna fish with the scallion.

Avoid any form of mints, tooth paste, or mouthwash for the two days.

Stay close tp your opponent and breathe deep and heavy. This will allow you to keep your lungs full and avoid fatigue while making your long legged opponent want to release that guard to create distance. He will begin to fatigue as he now tries to free himself.

Or, you could work the pressure points in his thighs.

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Old 10-19-2007, 02:15 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Are you digging your elbows into his hip/inner thigh? Three minutes of point specific pressure should make him adjust.
No offense, but this tends to not work on anyone above a white belt level. Even most white belts know how to defend this technique, actually. It also leaves you wide open for triangles, armbars, and sweeps.
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Old 10-19-2007, 03:05 PM   #8 (permalink)
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No offense, but this tends to not work on anyone above a white belt level. Even most white belts know how to defend this technique, actually. It also leaves you wide open for triangles, armbars, and sweeps.
Actually I like to do that because when they go for a triangle or armbar it's easy to pull out and pass if you are expecting it.
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No offense, but this tends to not work on anyone above a white belt level. Even most white belts know how to defend this technique, actually. It also leaves you wide open for triangles, armbars, and sweeps.
I haven't been grappling very long, and I have trouble defending the elbows in the thighs tactic. How do you defend that?
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Old 10-20-2007, 12:49 PM   #10 (permalink)
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No offense, but this tends to not work on anyone above a white belt level. Even most white belts know how to defend this technique, actually. It also leaves you wide open for triangles, armbars, and sweeps.
No offense taken at all, but it does help to advance position if you're prepared for their next movement. I have to apologies as I tend to look at grappling strictly from an MMA standpoint with strike etc.
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