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post #11 of 83 (permalink) Old 10-25-2007, 12:34 AM
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any sub that makes me tap hurts. i have had both arms torn and that hurts, i been cranked, that hurt,
caught in leg attacks, that sucks i tap before they hurt because i am so new to them(judo backround), the only ones that don't hurt as bad is blood chokes.... until i realize what happened and my head starts pounding.

i like chokes, because if you don't tap you sleeping, joint locks many tap before it pops, some tap after it pops, but i have heard stories no tap it pops and they still want to attack.

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Heel hooks and achilles locks. I always tap real quick if I get stuck in a knee bar but I bet they hurt if you stay in them. Americanas hurt worse than kimuras IMO just because I am a lot less flexible in that other direction.
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post #13 of 83 (permalink) Old 10-26-2007, 05:28 AM
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Kimuras and keylocks hurt me the most.
I don't know about leglocks, because I tap even before they are sunk in good. I don't know why...

I hear from people I train with that neck cranks hurt pretty bad too, even a couple of days later. Oops, I'm the only one using them!
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Heel hooks hurt days after getting caught in one during training.
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post #15 of 83 (permalink) Old 11-01-2007, 05:41 PM
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It really depends on you definition of pain is. Could it be o my god my bones are going to break or o i can't breathe.
I would say most submissions if done right can be very painful.
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I have no idea how bad leglocks hurt since I tap as soon as they're applied. I'll just have to take your word for that.

Keylocks aren't that bad for me unless a huge opponent turns my shoulder around backwards.

I think chokes where the forearm crushes the trachea are pretty bad. I think slicer submissions are terribly painful. Thank god they're so rare. Also, arm breakers (?I'm not sure if that's what they're called). I hate submissions that put pressure on the bone instead of the joint.
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Im pretty flexible in the arms so arm locks dont generally hurt me. But Ive had my legs broken so any leg lock is physcially and mentally painful for me
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Originally Posted by Ferdelance
Which are the most painful submission holds and why?
How would you rank them,from your own experience?
If you are going for the submission,which would be your choice?
I have really flexible shoulders and have never tapped to an omoplata or a kimura, but I love sinking them in. That last little twinge where you feel them stop resisting and start tapping, where they've given up on getting out is awesome. It's knowing you've won before your hand gets raised.

Personally, I have to say that most painful submission I've been caught in during rolling is an arms-crucifix. It just f*cking sucks.

Going for submissions, I tend to favor the triangle to armbar to omoplata to gogoplata sequence or the achilles lock to heelhook to toehold sequence. Toe hold is definitely my favorite.

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I got caught in a heel hook and got it cranked only a bit but still the next day I had bruising up the side of my thigh next to my knee.
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post #20 of 83 (permalink) Old 11-02-2007, 05:16 PM
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I'm super flexible pretty much everywhere, in my shoulders arms, legs, hips, so kimuras, keylocks and other subs like that dont affect me at all really. I would say that heelhooks, kneebars and armbars hurt me the worst.
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