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Old 10-23-2007, 08:19 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Which are the most painful submission holds?

Which are the most painful submission holds and why?
How would you rank them,from your own experience?
If you are going for the submission,which would be your choice?
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Old 10-23-2007, 05:16 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I've always thought shoulder locks were really painful. So are leglocks, but they aren't as common.
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Old 10-23-2007, 05:38 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Can openers or armbars.
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Old 10-23-2007, 05:43 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Heelhooks and must leglocks hurt like shit.

So do kimuras for me because of my shoulder.

But heelhooks imho.
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Old 10-23-2007, 05:47 PM   #5 (permalink)
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cause im a big guy im going to have to say kimura
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Old 10-23-2007, 07:52 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Heelhooks and must leglocks hurt like shit.

So do kimuras for me because of my shoulder.

But heelhooks imho.
Hey that's great guys.But you gotta help me out here.I only took a rudimentary judo course at the local YMCA and about a year and a half of Kyokushinkai Karate, so I find that I am rather unfamiliar with your terminology.
What is a kimura?
What is a heelhook?
What is a can opener?
An armbar I am familiar with, but the others......
Also,Which of the submission holds is easiest to apply to an opponent? Which do you find is the hardest or requires the greatest skill?And which is hardest to defend against?
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Old 10-23-2007, 08:08 PM   #7 (permalink)
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There's no easy submissions on a good opponent my friend!
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Old 10-23-2007, 08:38 PM   #8 (permalink)
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^^^^ painfull submissions foo!

id say kimura fasho. leg locks hurt. but a kimura is dam painfull. as well as just a cop hold on the ground. used a lot on me in wrestling.
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What is a kimura?
What is a heelhook?
What is a can opener?
Kimura: www.lockflow.com

Heel hook: www.lockflow.com

For the can opener, I think Tank Abbott submitted Steve Jennum or Sam Adkins with that hold in the early UFCs, but you can't find them on YouTube because Dana won't let them show even the really old fights there. But you can try to find those fights and look for yourself.
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Old 10-24-2007, 08:23 AM   #10 (permalink)
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^^^^ painfull submissions foo!

id say kimura fasho. leg locks hurt. but a kimura is dam painfull. as well as just a cop hold on the ground. used a lot on me in wrestling.
He also asked about easiest submissions.

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