Originally Posted by Kin
Do you have any tips of beating the turtle? Aside from sinking in hooks, I only have one other method, which I haven't even tried out yet on a live opponent. I offer a leg, reach under and grab the opposite lapel, dive over and roll, whilst trapping their arm between my leg. Wow, I fail at describing it... But yeah...
spin into a position where my hips are behind thiers with my chest on the small of thier back for control, at this point i grab the back of thier belt & the back of thier lapel, i pop up placing lapel grip side knee at the base of thier spine, and throw myself back. this motion pulls them into me and rolls them backward, i now have thier back with hooks in.
spin into a position where my hips are behind thiers with my chest on the small of thier back for control, i get both hands and grip thier belt, i stand up and up them up fast and hard, this motion opens up there elbows from knees, at the peak of my jerking them up, i jump my hooks in, i now have the position with hooks in and they are on thier stomach.
on the two above i go for chokes lapel, i may use my knuckles to trace the jaw line to help me get under the chin, i may work a rnc, i may step over the top of his head for an arm bar.
if north south, one knee up one down, belt grip and pull them into the thigh of your down leg, this motion opens up his knee to elbow action and you sept over this your plated leg, slipping under his chest and foward rolling into that side. catch the croock of your bent side leg withthe top of your foot on the step over leg, this sets you up for the reverse triangle.
thread you hand under thier arm pit to grab a lapel(do not let them trap your hand or they will roll you), pull slack from lapel, with free hand reach under his chin to grab higher on lapel, after new grip release with old grip and shoot down between his legs turning your chest upward(maintain hip to body contact), slide you wieght on top his shoulders stepping foward into a clock choke.
a few to get you started