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Old 01-22-2008, 06:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Whats the best thing to do ? Arm hook around the back?

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Old 01-22-2008, 06:50 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Shrimp and pull half guard, also make sure to get under hooks if you can. You can also try to get an overhook, bump, and turn them in the same direction as the arm you have overhooked. You can also try to sit up, grab double underhooks, and try to slip in a butterfly hook and sweep.
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wow thanks alot...Im pretty new at this so bare with me. Shrimp as in like a fetal position in order to slip your legs up by his abs/chest?
Underhooks as in legs right?
Butterfly hook?
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I should simplify the disclaimer by saying that it's really about what works for you, personally, as most people have their own defenses for the mount (I'll mention mine along with some of the standard ones).

Of the pretty standard BJJ ones, there's the arm-hook/foot-pin/bridge combination that can sometimes get you in guard, but that's not very practical in an MMA fight, because you will eat strikes. In fact, it's not even very practical in BJJ competition because if it gives your opponent the opportunity to secure a lapel you can get choked out even from the guard.

That said, the afformentioned shrimp defense is very effective, but it's difficult to get against an opponent with a solid base. The key is really using your arms as a wall against your opponents' hips to keep them low, which will allow you to slip out much easier. This will allow you to either get back to half guard (where there are a few really solid sweeps and, if you do the technique quickly enough, a kneebar).

Personally, I perfer to look for a reverse body triangle from being mounted, as my opponents usually created too much space when they try to strike me, which gives me a great opportunity. If I get the reverse body triangle, I have a solid achilles lock from this position, but it can translate pretty easily into any kind of footlock.

Also, if your opponent gets too high up on you, slip one or both of your arms out and roll your hips over. This will allow you either to go out the back door or to get a reverse single leg (the first if you've gotten both arms out, the second if you only got one).

Hopefully, that will help. Let me know if there's anything you need clarified.
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Personally, I perfer to look for a reverse body triangle from being mounted, as my opponents usually created too much space when they try to strike me, which gives me a great opportunity. If I get the reverse body triangle, I have a solid achilles lock from this position, but it can translate pretty easily into any kind of footlock.
What do you mean by reverse body triangle? How do you get into that position? You're talking about being on the bottom of a mount right?
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wow thanks alot...Im pretty new at this so bare with me. Shrimp as in like a fetal position in order to slip your legs up by his abs/chest?
Underhooks as in legs right?
Butterfly hook?
Sorry im a noob
Good video on shrimping:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=e5umBWsf_NA

By underhooks I mean under their arms, as they will give you leverage to sweep from half guard. Butterfly hooks are when you stick your foot between legs like this:
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Thanks alot guys, i actully went to my first BJJ class last night. It was a free Trial class. i rolled with two guys. One was 135 and has been training. One was 165 and was his first day as well. The heavier kid was 16 and i almost got a triangle on him but gassed. The first guy i was way stronger than him but he ended up getting my back in a draw basically. He couldnt get the choke but i couldnt turn him before the bell. I understand alot more know about the terms and such and appreciate all the help. I have to check finances but i hope to start training more regularly. One of the main reasons is for me to stop smoking! i gassed so hard it wasnt funny.
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What do you mean by reverse body triangle? How do you get into that position? You're talking about being on the bottom of a mount right?
Put your lower leg across their upper abs and lock the triangle, then push them down by bridging off of your back. It requires some flexibility, but alot of the really talented footlock guys, like Josh Barnett, use it to establish control. (he used it when he fought Kaz Nakamura, though not from the mount position)

This is from the bottom of mount.


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Thanks alot guys, i actully went to my first BBJ class last night. It was a free Trial class. i rolled with two guys. One was 135 and has been training. One was 165 and was his first day as well. The heavier kid was 16 and i almost got a triangle on him but gassed. The first guy i was way stronger than him but he ended up getting my back in a draw basically. He couldnt get the choke but i couldnt turn him before the bell. I understand alot more know about the terms and such and appreciate all the help. I have to check finances but i hope to start training more regularly. One of the main reasons is for me to stop smoking! i gassed so hard it wasnt funny.
If he gets your back, that's not a draw. While he might not have finished you in the time given, on the street, you're done once you give up your back, but he's got the practice so it makes sense that he would have a solid position like that.

Good to hear you're looking at really starting up.
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Old 01-27-2008, 08:56 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Iron Man, I like that reverse body triangle to ankle lock idea. Another idea is to place your hands at the bottom of their ribcage, buck and throw them over your head as hard as you can. There's really not a whole lot you can do from that position, but I can't wait to try that reverse body-tri. I'm a fellow BJJ noob, so I'm sure I'll get mounted soon enough.
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