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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 02-20-2008, 03:35 PM Thread Starter
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Well I've been taking Bjj for two month now and there was tournament this weekend, which my instructor told me I was not ready for. However i asked him when he felt i would be ready to compete, his response was about two to four month.

which leads me to the next tournament that i know about in chicago is July 19th. Besides just going to class is there anything i should be doing to get myself prepared for this. I want to do the best i can possibly do once the comp arrives. my other problem is finding people to just plain drill with.

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Well I've been taking Bjj for two month now and there was tournament this weekend, which my instructor told me I was not ready for. However i asked him when he felt i would be ready to compete, his response was about two to four month.

which leads me to the next tournament that i know about in chicago is July 19th. Besides just going to class is there anything i should be doing to get myself prepared for this. I want to do the best i can possibly do once the comp arrives. my other problem is finding people to just plain drill with.

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Cardio and strength training

And there are solo drills to work on to help your ground game..But also work some judo for throws and wrestling for control if you can
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Just train a lot, that's my advice. If you're only going twice a week, go 3 times a week. If you can afford going to the No gi class on saturday morning, do it! The only way you get better at jiu-jitsu is by doing jiu-jitsu




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Just train a lot, that's my advice. If you're only going twice a week, go 3 times a week. If you can afford going to the No gi class on saturday morning, do it! The only way you get better at jiu-jitsu is by doing jiu-jitsu
Full of truth. Thats exactly the way I train my BJJ, I dont like going in and learning moves and positioning, I like to train by doing it and having someone coach me while I'm doing it. My advice is roll as much as you possibly can for as long as you can with someone who is better than you. Have them give you tips on good and bad points of you game. This way you can constantly go forward with your cardio by fighting for so long, constantly improve your game by doing it so much and probably learn a lot of neew things with what theywill tell you. It'll also teach you WHY hes better than you and it will prepare you to fight people better than you.
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Full of truth. Thats exactly the way I train my BJJ, I dont like going in and learning moves and positioning, I like to train by doing it and having someone coach me while I'm doing it. My advice is roll as much as you possibly can for as long as you can with someone who is better than you. Have them give you tips on good and bad points of you game. This way you can constantly go forward with your cardio by fighting for so long, constantly improve your game by doing it so much and probably learn a lot of neew things with what theywill tell you. It'll also teach you WHY hes better than you and it will prepare you to fight people better than you.
Dont forget cardio and strength training...I love how these guys forget that just doing your art isnt going to put you above and beyond...itll only get you so far
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Dont forget cardio and strength training...I love how these guys forget that just doing your art isnt going to put you above and beyond...itll only get you so far

Are you kidding?

AFter training for 2 months, the kid doesn't need to worry about Cardio just yet. He needs to stick to basics, and use mucle-memorization. That's why you should do. Stick to basics, and the Submissions will come.

I'm not a Bas Rutten nut-hugger. But he has a saying "Postion, before Submission" This is the truest statment, especially in beginner level competitions. In your matches, don't focus on the Sub. Focus on where your body is postioned.


AND Lol @ Strength Training. It's not really needed at this level. Just train hard with your partners.

Note to Iron Pumpers: Josh Koscheck doesn't lift weights. He does body-to-body training. Kos is the second strongest WW in the world.

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Are you kidding?

AFter training for 2 months, the kid doesn't need to worry about Cardio just yet. He needs to stick to basics, and use mucle-memorization. That's why you should do. Stick to basics, and the Submissions will come.

I'm not a Bas Rutten nut-hugger. But he has a saying "Postion, before Submission" This is the truest statment, especially in beginner level competitions. In your matches, don't focus on the Sub. Focus on where your body is postioned.


AND Lol @ Strength Training. It's not really needed at this level. Just train hard with your partners.

Note to Iron Pumpers: Josh Koscheck doesn't lift weights. He does body-to-body training. Kos is the second strongest WW in the world.
Yea and if he faces someone technically better than him hes going to get tired faster and those basics are going to be what the guy expects now this might just be me but if he can outlast this guy and go for the long haul thatll be in his opponents head if its a tournament oh shit i have to finish this guy and thatll make his opponent more tired theres a difference between basics and trying to play catch up..if hes been doing it for four months thats only so much you can catch up to a guy who might have been doing it a year or so.So think about that.


and btw koscheck has been wrestling since he could probably walk and who said hes second strongest.Last i checked he lost to st pierre and i dont see him beating hughes anytime soon either and both of those guys are strong as hell and oh yea hughes lifts pretty hefty himself
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Yea and if he faces someone technically better than him hes going to get tired faster and those basics are going to be what the guy expects now this might just be me but if he can outlast this guy and go for the long haul thatll be in his opponents head if its a tournament oh shit i have to finish this guy and thatll make his opponent more tired theres a difference between basics and trying to play catch up..if hes been doing it for four months thats only so much you can catch up to a guy who might have been doing it a year or so.So think about that.


and btw koscheck has been wrestling since he could probably walk and who said hes second strongest.Last i checked he lost to st pierre and i dont see him beating hughes anytime soon either and both of those guys are strong as hell and oh yea hughes lifts pretty hefty himself

Well -- I'll try to decifer that grammer-forbidden responce.


Well - I think it's obvious that you haven't been reading this thread, and you don't compete. Come July he'll have been training for 7 months. Maybe 8 depending on the day. Which means he'll be going into the begginers division for this bracket. You don't got against people that are that much more experienced then you. And for you to say that he needs CARDIO more then BASICS is outrageous. Listen, champ. You run for 5 miles a day. I'll grapple for 1 hour a day. In a month, we'll grapple. You think that your ability to keep running is going to help you against my BASIC techniques? WRONG.

FURTHERMORE -- If you DID compete, you would know that grapple cardio, is differant then running cardio. You breath differantly in a grappling match then you do on a treadmill. The MUSCLE MEMORIZATION that I mentioned, is going to give him enough cardio through repitition of the moves. People can walk effortlessly because they have done so much of it in their lives. The same should be true with basics in Jujitsu. Later in his grappling career, it'll be advanced moves that come as easily as your heart beats. It's all a process.

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AND -- Well done, you can use Sherdog to find out Kos lost to GSP. GSP out muscled him. Making him the strongest WW around right now. Kos, would be a close second. When was the last time you saw Matt Hughes out class someone because of his strength? Against Chris Lytle? HA!

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Well - I think it's obvious that you haven't been reading this thread, and you don't compete. Come July he'll have been training for 7 months. Maybe 8 depending on the day. Which means he'll be going into the begginers division for this bracket. You don't got against people that are that much more experienced then you. And for you to say that he needs CARDIO more then BASICS is outrageous. Listen, champ. You run for 5 miles a day. I'll grapple for 1 hour a day. In a month, we'll grapple. You think that your ability to keep running is going to help you against my BASIC techniques? WRONG.

FURTHERMORE -- If you DID compete, you would know that grapple cardio, is differant then running cardio. You breath differantly in a grappling match then you do on a treadmill. The MUSCLE MEMORIZATION that I mentioned, is going to give him enough cardio through repitition of the moves. People can walk effortlessly because they have done so much of it in their lives. The same should be true with basics in Jujitsu. Later in his grappling career, it'll be advanced moves that come as easily as your heart beats. It's all a process.

Don't step to me.

AND -- Well done, you can use Sherdog to find out Kos lost to GSP. GSP out muscled him. Making him the strongest WW around right now. Kos, would be a close second. When was the last time you saw Matt Hughes out class someone because of his strength? Against Chris Lytle? HA!
I never said anything about running.There are different ways to do cardio and no i didnt say that it was more important than the basics i just said that he should be thinking about his cardio too.
And if you think about how ignorant you sound right matt hughes was the most dominant welterweight for a long time before GSP came along

And thank you very much sherdog was never involved in the process i saw the fight
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I never said anything about running.There are different ways to do cardio and no i didnt say that it was more important than the basics i just said that he should be thinking about his cardio too.
And if you think about how ignorant you sound right matt hughes was the most dominant welterweight for a long time before GSP came along

And thank you very much sherdog was never involved in the process i saw the fight
Wake up and smell the new ERA. Hughes is old news. He is as strong as he always was, and the difference is, the competition is stronger now.

If you SAW that fight, you would know that those two are the strongest WW's in the world.

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