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Old 08-13-2008, 10:20 PM   #101 (permalink)
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It is when you try it make sure the arm you use to hook is close to the elbow it does way more that way.
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Old 09-07-2008, 04:51 PM   #102 (permalink)
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okay my new problem is guard pass. The dudes legs are always in the way, I only know the 3 passes (being a whitebelt and all) where u go from combat pose to left right, or knee on stomach in center. My problem is the guy always pushes my knee back down into guard or uses his legs to sweep me. I also have a problem letting myself get swept cuz Im comfortable in bottom guard and I know more attacks from that position. Thanks for all the help too Ironman! You're advice about the guard drills really helped me to maintain my guard from bottom.
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Old 09-07-2008, 09:28 PM   #103 (permalink)
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okay my new problem is guard pass. The dudes legs are always in the way, I only know the 3 passes (being a whitebelt and all) where u go from combat pose to left right, or knee on stomach in center. My problem is the guy always pushes my knee back down into guard or uses his legs to sweep me. I also have a problem letting myself get swept cuz Im comfortable in bottom guard and I know more attacks from that position. Thanks for all the help too Ironman! You're advice about the guard drills really helped me to maintain my guard from bottom.
I'm glad I could help, and glad that people are continuing to maintain this thread.

First thing that you need to work on is your balance. Just work on using your hands to keep from getting swept. This will work.

In terms of better ways to pass the guard, I'd revisit my post on guard passes (which I think is what you're asking for) in order to get more details on techniques.
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Old 09-20-2008, 03:08 AM   #104 (permalink)
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Weak leg attack/def

I usually end up only having escape as an option when someone attacks my legs(both of us will have our legs vulnerable in this situation). Could anyone explain how to take advantage and get a lock here, or do I need to just keep escaping and go for a better position?


Edit: found this, Bas rocks. anything else simple?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-Vaj9JV5bQ

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Old 09-20-2008, 12:40 PM   #105 (permalink)
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I usually end up only having escape as an option when someone attacks my legs(both of us will have our legs vulnerable in this situation). Could anyone explain how to take advantage and get a lock here, or do I need to just keep escaping and go for a better position?


Edit: found this, Bas rocks. anything else simple?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-Vaj9JV5bQ
I don't want to hate on Bas or anything, but that heel hook defense is really stupid.

Don't extend your leg, because you're going to get caught in a straight ankle lock that hurts like a b*tch.

It's better to shorten your leg and slip it in between your opponents as a way to improve your leverage as you roll.

Actually this is a fairly complicated move.

I'm starting to use my camera to do some picture documenting, so you guys can see what I'm talking about.

So this will be the move I show on here.

EDIT: Do you want it from this mutual leg-lock position?
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Old 09-21-2008, 02:20 PM   #106 (permalink)
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YES, that is the way to put that"mutual leg lock". I've been doing jujitsu for seven-eight years and have just tried to ignore this spot because I was uncomfortable there. Any links advice there would rock.

By shortening the leg etc., do you mean withdrawing the foot and using the upper leg to control their leg better?

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YES, that is the way to put that"mutual leg lock". I've been doing jujitsu for seven-eight years and have just tried to ignore this spot because I was uncomfortable there. Any links advice there would rock.

By shortening the leg etc., do you mean withdrawing the foot and using the upper leg to control their leg better?
Yeah, basically.

I'll try and get pictures up tomorrow so you can see what I'm talking about.
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Old 09-22-2008, 06:21 PM   #108 (permalink)
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I usually end up only having escape as an option when someone attacks my legs(both of us will have our legs vulnerable in this situation). Could anyone explain how to take advantage and get a lock here, or do I need to just keep escaping and go for a better position?
Alright, beanpole, here are some pics (yes, they are of me) of the right way to do a straight ankle lock. I'll highlight some of the details so you can look for them in the pic.

I do apologize if these load slow. I made the pics big because I'm not quite sure how the sizing on photobucket works.


There are other places that this can be set up from (like from inside the guard), but this is the position that will get you the most used to the technique.

Wrap your arm around the Achilles tendon like you're doing a guillotine choke. You can't see the hands from this angle (check the last frame), but the grip is the same as a straight guillotine grip.

Use the top leg to straighten their leg out and keep the opponent from standing up. Tuck the bottom leg under to prevent it from getting caught and locked (you can also use it to stretch your opponents leg).

There are alot of people who think that you need to arch the back from this position. That's not the case. Pushing on your opponent's hip with the top foot to stretch the leg out and squeezing with the bicept should be sufficiently painful.

Hope that was helpful. If it is, please rep it.

If people have other techniques they want me to help with, I can (and will) take more pics on Wednesday. Please ask questions, it's good for me to think through the techniques.
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Old 12-15-2008, 06:33 PM   #109 (permalink)
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A lot of times when I do the North/South choke my opponent simply grabs my head and rools onto his knees (we get to a mutual schoolyard headlock position). Should I practice more tightness in the choke or should I try to learn the variation with the arm in?
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A lot of times when I do the North/South choke my opponent simply grabs my head and rools onto his knees (we get to a mutual schoolyard headlock position). Should I practice more tightness in the choke or should I try to learn the variation with the arm in?
An arm triangle is fine as a transition when he reaches for the head. If he gets to the knees, practice transitioning to the darse, that will help a lot.

Really, though, I suggest that you keep your balance. Once you slip the arm around the head, creating the choke, start to take your weight off of their body to finish the choke.

If he starts to roll up when you have fed the arm around his head, just drop your head and chest into his chest to keep him flat on his back.

Basically my point is, if he starts to roll up, you're not keeping your weight down enough, and you need to smash him.
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