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Old 02-23-2009, 12:15 PM   #131 (permalink)
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I have a question for you. We were working on escaping mount, and I was just wondering how I can avoid getting arm barred when I shrimp lol. When we were working on it, I got arm barred like 3 or 4 times. Should I lock my hands? I am just not sure how to prevent it.
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Old 02-23-2009, 12:50 PM   #132 (permalink)
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I have a question for you. We were working on escaping mount, and I was just wondering how I can avoid getting arm barred when I shrimp lol. When we were working on it, I got arm barred like 3 or 4 times. Should I lock my hands? I am just not sure how to prevent it.
Yeah. This is actually a pretty common problem for guys learning to shrimp.

It's as simple as not extending your arms out. Keep your elbows in. When you go to shrimp, put your hands on your opponent's knee (not their hips or their belt) and keep the elbows glued to your ribs.

If your opponent doesn't have control of the elbow, they can't get the armbar.
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Old 02-23-2009, 04:31 PM   #133 (permalink)
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Yeah. This is actually a pretty common problem for guys learning to shrimp.

It's as simple as not extending your arms out. Keep your elbows in. When you go to shrimp, put your hands on your opponent's knee (not their hips or their belt) and keep the elbows glued to your ribs.

If your opponent doesn't have control of the elbow, they can't get the armbar.
Alright, thank you.

Also, what if the guy weighs like 260? Should I extend? Normally the guys I roll with are around 220-260 pounds, so I am not sure if I can get enough power with my elbows glued to my chest.

Or will I be fine?
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Old 02-23-2009, 05:27 PM   #134 (permalink)
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Alright, thank you.

Also, what if the guy weighs like 260? Should I extend? Normally the guys I roll with are around 220-260 pounds, so I am not sure if I can get enough power with my elbows glued to my chest.

Or will I be fine?
You just need to work your hips out harder. That's where the power and leverage comes from, not your arms.
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Old 02-23-2009, 05:45 PM   #135 (permalink)
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You just need to work your hips out harder. That's where the power and leverage comes from, not your arms.
Alright, thank you
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Old 02-23-2009, 06:18 PM   #136 (permalink)
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Thanks for all the advice Ironman, this is more of just a random thing then match advice, but whenever I grapple with friends I love getting a gator roll on them (just is a fun move to me) and I saw Babalu get a choke out of it. My question is would the set up for it be the same? Get a front headlock and then lock it up behind the (opponents) other arm, and just sink your forearm to lock it around their throat? Thus making it a choke instead of a pin? It seems like a really slick move.
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You wanna make sure your arm is under their chin and lock your hand on your OWN bicep. Tuck your head in to the side(if you don't, you'll squash your head when you roll!), roll so they're on their back and you're on your side, then walk yourself towards them, tightening your grip of the choke at the same time!
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Old 02-23-2009, 07:35 PM   #138 (permalink)
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You wanna make sure your arm is under their chin and lock your hand on your OWN bicep. Tuck your head in to the side(if you don't, you'll squash your head when you roll!), roll so they're on their back and you're on your side, then walk yourself towards them, tightening your grip of the choke at the same time!
Thanks pauly, thats sort of the same as doing a gator roll in wrestling, so I dont think it will be to hard
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Old 03-28-2009, 03:39 AM   #139 (permalink)
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Thanks for all the advice Ironman, this is more of just a random thing then match advice, but whenever I grapple with friends I love getting a gator roll on them (just is a fun move to me) and I saw Babalu get a choke out of it. My question is would the set up for it be the same? Get a front headlock and then lock it up behind the (opponents) other arm, and just sink your forearm to lock it around their throat? Thus making it a choke instead of a pin? It seems like a really slick move.
I'm going to assume you're talking about the anaconda choke that Babalu got against Sokoudjou in Affliction. I'm only going to assume that because it's basically the choke you described.

Yeah, it's basically:

1. Get the front headlock.
2. Lock the head and arm position in.
3. Roll them on to their side.
4. Walk your legs towards the body, like you're going to guard. This will choke the sh*t out of them.

Since I started training judo, I've been finding that I get this submission all the time. It's an excellent move.
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Old 04-19-2009, 01:37 PM   #140 (permalink)
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Hey guys!!
I haven't done bjj that long (5 months actually) and while im getting better and better each time i get stuck in a situation with some guys i train with.

Basically these guys continiously go for front/lapel style chokes when i land in their guard.
-I was taught to keep one hand pressed to them so i could stop their second hand from reaching my collar/lapel. Eventually they'll use their legs bring me in close and catch me that way.
-I never voluntarily go down (i try to stay postured) but these guys always manage to pull me down into the choke.
-I can check the guys hand (ive also tried the telephone) but then i just end up continiously defending when i really gotta get moving with the guard break.

If Ironman or ANYONE else could help me, that would be awesome!

Apologies for my lack of knowledge/experience aswell.
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