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**IronMan** · 09-14-2009, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by -Jesus-

Ah, That would make sense. I'm always going into high guard unless I'm going for a Kiruma.. Thanks, That's very useful.

Even then, the high guard will help you control posture and keep the crook in the arm a lot easier.

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Also, This could set up a Gogoplata Am i right?

Yeah. Single arm control can be a set up for the armbar, triangle, omoplata and gogoplata. The gogo is mostly for if they choose the stack.

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Pulling the arm down(Tricept), and Shrimping, and pulling leg over?

Yeah, it mostly about establishing a 90 degree angle to your opponents body to break the balance, which gives great control of the posture to finish the armbar without having to worry about getting stacked.

-Jesus- · 09-14-2009, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by IronMan

Even then, the high guard will help you control posture and keep the crook in the arm a lot easier.

Yeah. Single arm control can be a set up for the armbar, triangle, omoplata and gogoplata. The gogo is mostly for if they choose the stack.

Yeah, it mostly about establishing a 90 degree angle to your opponents body to break the balance, which gives great control of the posture to finish the armbar without having to worry about getting stacked.

Damn, That's amazing advice. Thanks, I've got a lot to learn. Also, When I'm doing a omo/gogoplata, and i hit 90 degrees, if they try to stack what will happen? I can just sweep Right?

BTW,

With the Triangle choke, Which way do i angle it? Is it towards where the arm is crossing? (Like if left arm is across the neck, do i push to the left side?)

**adamjjrwarrior** · 09-14-2009, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by IronMan

Yeah, practice the armdrag.

Have an opponent on their knees and practice popping your foot out from the butterfly guard, using your cross hand to pull their arm to the mat, reaching around to their back and hooking under their opposite side arm (this hook is amazingly helpful in securing the back).

Practicing this drag is everything.

I also practice the armdrag from standing, but it's a little different than off of your back (or, more accurately, off of your butt, which is where you should be in the butterfly guard). Still, it'll help you develop the tricepts and back muscles required for powerful armdrags.

would you happen to have any pictures of this drill at all available? thanks for your time mate.

**IronMan** · 09-14-2009, 11:35 PM

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would you happen to have any pictures of this drill at all available? thanks for your time mate.

Actually, this is a really good version of the standing drill.

Click this link.

As far as the grounded drill, I don't have any pictures, because I don't generally take pics of drilling.

**IronMan** · 09-14-2009, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by -Jesus-

Damn, That's amazing advice. Thanks, I've got a lot to learn. Also, When I'm doing a omo/gogoplata, and i hit 90 degrees, if they try to stack what will happen? I can just sweep Right?

Firstly, don't go to the 90 degree angle with the gogo. There are two ways to finish the gogo off of the back, but the best is to have your hips squared to their shoulders, literally right in front of them.

There is no stack from the omo, their only roll is to roll out.

Attached is a basic walk through of the omoplata (so you can see the angle change) and the rollout (which, from what it looks like, was actually as intentional sweep on my part, as I started grabbing the pantleg right from the start). I finish with a triangle, actually, so I attached that pic to answer the second question.

EDIT: Since this covers basic questions, I've folded it into the Back to Basics thread.

-Jesus- · 09-15-2009, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by IronMan

Firstly, don't go to the 90 degree angle with the gogo. There are two ways to finish the gogo off of the back, but the best is to have your hips squared to their shoulders, literally right in front of them.

There is no stack from the omo, their only roll is to roll out.

Attached is a basic walk through of the omoplata (so you can see the angle change) and the rollout (which, from what it looks like, was actually as intentional sweep on my part, as I started grabbing the pantleg right from the start). I finish with a triangle, actually, so I attached that pic to answer the second question.

EDIT: Since this covers basic questions, I've folded it into the Back to Basics thread.

Ahh, Thanks. That helps alot.
Also; The pictures will definitely help me pull these off now.

**adamjjrwarrior** · 09-15-2009, 10:30 PM

the video doesnt work but yeah thanks anyways, i get the basics of what your talkin about anywho!...

cheers mate

**IronMan** · 09-15-2009, 11:03 PM

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the video doesnt work but yeah thanks anyways, i get the basics of what your talkin about anywho!...

cheers mate

Changed it to a standard hyperlink. Should work now.

jcal · 09-15-2009, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by kamikaze145

Here is just something to add to that I like to do. Once you lock up the arm and leg on whichever side use your other arm to ensure he cant base out at all. Just make sure your arm is under their arm like an under hook but without the hook and as you are rolling over straighten it so that they cant post their opposite arm out. Taking away half of their base is usually enough, but this is just to make sure. It isnt hard, I have had success with it. If that doesnt make sense let me know I will try to explain it again.

I know what our saying and that does help, but when im about to bridge I tell my partner to watch his fingers cauuse its real easy to bend them backwards when he rolls over and you have his hand trapped, usually with all his fingers extended out. Just wondreing if anybody else does the same. I play nice.

**IronMan** · 09-16-2009, 12:06 AM

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I know what our saying and that does help, but when im about to bridge I tell my partner to watch his fingers cauuse its real easy to bend them backwards when he rolls over and you have his hand trapped, usually with all his fingers extended out. Just wondreing if anybody else does the same. I play nice.

I don't talk to my partners when I roll. It's really disrespectful, in my opinion, to coach someone when you're rolling with them, unless they're really new. And even then, I just take it easy and let the coach do the coaching.

Some people take it seriously, but most BJJ schools don't care. Still, until I get up to brown or black belt level, I'm going to leave it alone and save that stuff for when I'm just demonstrating techniques.

Also, I generally try and focus on what I'm doing, just because that's what sparring is about, at my level of jiu-jitsu.

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