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Old 10-08-2009, 12:53 PM   #211 (permalink)
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About side control in Judo, what kind of side control exactly are you talking about? The standard yoko-shiho-gatame where he has one arm under your leg and another under your neck and arm, or a different one?
Yes that's the one. Sometimes they go for the crusafix too, but I'm OK at escaping from there.

Also thanks a lot to everyone who responded. Really appreciate it.
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Old 10-08-2009, 01:20 PM   #212 (permalink)
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Yes that's the one. Sometimes they go for the crusafix too, but I'm OK at escaping from there.

Also thanks a lot to everyone who responded. Really appreciate it.
Escaping from the position you are talking about all the escapes I mentioned and the ones IronMan mentioned should work. Just remember you need space to escape...it's all about space. You don't get space a good Judo guy will keep your shoulders pinned.
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Old 10-08-2009, 02:01 PM   #213 (permalink)
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What I do is get both my hands in there (like I normally would for a shrimp escape) and then push off to make a little space. I'll shoot and underhook under on the outside arm side deep as I can. Once I have my underhook I'll scissor and roll into them using my underhook and head to drive them back (head to chest), which rolls them over. Is that close to what you are talking about??
No. The move I'm talking about consists of throwing up a leg (while still pinned), slipping the hips out and rolling the opponent into side control.

It's definitely not anything you'd see in jiu-jitsu, but it works the way judo guys pin.


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Another one that I used on some of our Judo guys is getting the arm under and scooping a leg...keep driving into them until I feel them push into me hard trying to drive me down. When they push into me I turn hard away, lift as hard as I can with the leg, and bump all at the same time. It's a power move, but it works as long as the guy is close in size...I've actually done it to several guys that have 50+lbs. on me.
That sounds interesting. I'm not convinced I have the muscle mass to pull that off, but maybe I'll give it a try.
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Old 10-08-2009, 02:42 PM   #214 (permalink)
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I know a few ways of escaping yoko shiho gatame. But only one is easy to pull off. When he grabs you, you should push his head with your free hand underneath the leg where his arm is and you have a triangle.

The other way is very difficult if your opponent is even a bit heavier than you. Say the he has your right side. Grab his belt with your left hand and pull just a bit so you can create the space to place your elbow on his stomach. Now bridge, pull with your left, push with your right and flip him over you so he lands on his back.
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