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post #41 of 231 (permalink) Old 06-01-2008, 04:27 PM
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When talking guard passes, is Mario Sperry's "submission grappling" guard passes still good (they're not obsolete or too basic or anything?). Because I've found that posturing up and put one hand on the chest of the opponent and the other on his leg, preassuring (changing hand depending on his reaction) and perhaps stand up is a good pass, in all it's simplicity.

Also, leaving your arm out for an armbar/triangle, defending in the last moment and proceeding to pass, is a great however daring pass. It's prolly one of my more used ones, but that's more because I'm sloppy from the top (but with good defense) than anything else

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When talking guard passes, is Mario Sperry's "submission grappling" guard passes still good (they're not obsolete or too basic or anything?). Because I've found that posturing up and put one hand on the chest of the opponent and the other on his leg, preassuring (changing hand depending on his reaction) and perhaps stand up is a good pass, in all it's simplicity.
Yeah, the basic stuff is valid and it's great. I think these are the passes we've been talking about through most of this thread.

Yeah, simple is better.


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Ummm... it's a gamble. If it pays off for you, great, but don't become reliant on it, because I catch guys all of the time when they bait me.

If you give me a move that I know really well, like a triangle choke or an omoplata, and I'll take it, and there's a chance I'll finish you.

It's better to not play that risk unless you absolutely has to. It's great if you know how to do that, but it's better to save that for later in the game if you do get caught, because baiting is not a good place to start. Not something I personally recommend.



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I never bait triangles because thats pretty much the only sub I get caught in from bottom. My defense for it sucks. But sometimes I will bait an omaplata when guys go for rubber guard.
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I never bait triangles because thats pretty much the only sub I get caught in from bottom. My defense for it sucks. But sometimes I will bait an omaplata when guys go for rubber guard.
This probably isn't going to be a good idea against seriously dangerous 10th Planet guys.

I have guys who bait me with the omoplata by putting their hands on the ground, and generally I just catch them in the jiu-claw and either sweep or lock down the omoplata or the carni.

There are lots of guys who think that they can't get past once they stuff the leg and think that they're safe from the omoplata, but they're setting up the carni, as well as giving up a pretty easy move to take the back or set up a reverse triangle.

I'll say this again:

Don't bait moves unless you really have to, because if your opponent is really good at that move, you could get caught, and you are basically giving your opponents the opportunity to take control.

So, if you get stuck in the rubber guard, keep your elbows in, your hands off of the ground and posture up. Use whatever points of grip you can get and work for the position.

The other way to get out of the rubber guard is to lock out your opponents bottom leg with one hand, so that they can't put the triangle on. Then swim your arm out the bottom and work the double-under pass.



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Hey, are there any subs from being in someones gaurd? I can't ever seem to think of one other than a footlock, but I'm not very good at those.

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Hey, are there any subs from being in someones gaurd? I can't ever seem to think of one other than a footlock, but I'm not very good at those.
There aren't any. I mean, you can try a can-opener, but it's not a submission, it's a guard opener.

Pass the guard, then look to submit. Don't go for a submission when your opponent can submit you over basic mistakes like extending your arms too far.

That's just a general though, though. If you want me to walk you through an achilles lock, I can do that.



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There aren't any. I mean, you can try a can-opener, but it's not a submission, it's a guard opener.

Pass the guard, then look to submit. Don't go for a submission when your opponent can submit you over basic mistakes like extending your arms too far.

That's just a general though, though. If you want me to walk you through an achilles lock, I can do that.
Actually if you wouldn't mind, that would be awesome. I have tried it before but I am definitly doing it wrong.

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Actually if you wouldn't mind, that would be awesome. I have tried it before but I am definitly doing it wrong.
Alright, there are a few schools of thought on the way to apply it, but I'll walk you through the really basic straight achilles lock that I learned from Steve Maxwell, because it's the one that works best from the guard for me (besides the heel hook, but that's not really a basic move and you should wait a while with that one).

So, when you drop for the straight leglock from your opponent's guard, you are going to trap the leg that you are attacking between your legs, so that their thigh (ideally as high up on the thigh as you can be) is in your crotch. Your opponent's ankle should be in your armpit and under the outside arm. If you are attacking your opponents right leg, it should be under your left arm.

Your forearm should be right at the base of the achilles tendon, right above the heel. The submission will come from raw pressure on the tendon, so make sure that you are using the bone of the forearm, and not the fleshy, muscular part. Even if you've got strong forearms, it's not as effective.

Arch you back up to finish the move. You should be on the top of your back, like in a bridge, and you should be squeezing tighter as well to exert extra pressure on the tendon to cause extra pain.

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Use a guillotine grip.

Pinch your knees together.

Pin your feet on the floor to give your back more leverage.

Hope that was helpful. If it is, rep it.



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A basic half guard sweep that is NOT the lockdown+whip up or the one Nogueira did against Sylvia would be super appreciated!

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Could you do a write up on the Ezekiel choke?
I've used it before but honestly I don't really know what I'm doing.
Also is it too easy to escape if done from side control?
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