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**IronMan** · 06-18-2008, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Onganju

I see what you're saying. You really wouldn't have to pull up on his head anyways as the mat is already there to keep them in place. Post out your arms for base and drive your hps forward and all your weight is going through your shin, through the guys throat and into the floor.

By the looks of it, it doesn't look like Aoki was able to completely clear his leg from the over his opponent's arm. While not completely tap-inducing as stacking his knee on his ankle, in the unlikely event that the guy on the bottom squirms out Aoki can transition to a whole slew of other subs with his opponent's arm extended past his hip.

Yeah, the traditional transition out of a failed gogoplata is an omoplata, then into a triangle again.

From the top, the armbar settup is really easy if you can't totally clear the arm.

**ozz525** · 06-26-2008, 09:10 PM

Ironman what are your favorite gi guard passes? I am mainly a no gi grappler, and I like to use the no posture pass if you are familiar with it. I don't mind standing guard passes, but would preferably I would want 2 options one staying down and one standing.

**IronMan** · 06-27-2008, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ozz525

Ironman what are your favorite gi guard passes? I am mainly a no gi grappler, and I like to use the no posture pass if you are familiar with it. I don't mind standing guard passes, but would preferably I would want 2 options one staying down and one standing.

For no-gi, which tends to be more MMA oriented in my case, I use can openers and a double underhook pass alot. I also stand up and pass the guard, which is my second best pass behind the can opener.

For gi grappling, the toreando pass is my go-to move, though I also use the double-underhook pass and the traditional pass (Jeff Monson calls it a "jailbreak pass").

If you want a walkthrough of any of those, I'm glad to give you one.

**ozz525** · 06-27-2008, 05:29 PM

The thing that I mainly need are breaks once I break I go into a 2 on 1 pass, which I use very well. Other than that the gi passes give me a lot of trouble. I am maily using the single lapel pass, and sometimes the double.

**IronMan** · 07-13-2008, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ozz525

The thing that I mainly need are breaks once I break I go into a 2 on 1 pass, which I use very well. Other than that the gi passes give me a lot of trouble. I am maily using the single lapel pass, and sometimes the double.

I see what you're saying.

In terms of breaks, I use alot of hip grinds (pushing the elbows into the hips) and I use the jailbreak guard opener alot. I also try and get a knee in the guard and pop it open that way, which works really well.

The thing to be aware of with the lapel passes is that if you lose control of that leg for a second, and your opponent is quick and looking for the submission, there's a good chance you can get caught.

Personally, it's been a long time since anyone caught me in a lapel pass because of my leg flexibility. A good, flexible opponent will be able to lock down your arms even with only one leg. I don't think you have to worry about that at your level, but start working other passes too, because that one has a pretty low success rate against high level guards.

**ozz525** · 07-13-2008, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by IronMan

I see what you're saying.

In terms of breaks, I use alot of hip grinds (pushing the elbows into the hips) and I use the jailbreak guard opener alot. I also try and get a knee in the guard and pop it open that way, which works really well.

The thing to be aware of with the lapel passes is that if you lose control of that leg for a second, and your opponent is quick and looking for the submission, there's a good chance you can get caught.

Personally, it's been a long time since anyone caught me in a lapel pass because of my leg flexibility. A good, flexible opponent will be able to lock down your arms even with only one leg. I don't think you have to worry about that at your level, but start working other passes too, because that one has a pretty low success rate against high level guards.

I have been using this pass latly. It isn't this exactly but more or less. Its bad ass and I have breaking guard's open pretty easily
http://jiujitsumatrix.ning.com/video...AVideo%3A10437

taiwnezboi · 07-13-2008, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by IronMan

For no-gi, which tends to be more MMA oriented in my case, I use can openers and a double underhook pass alot. I also stand up and pass the guard, which is my second best pass behind the can opener.

For gi grappling, the toreando pass is my go-to move, though I also use the double-underhook pass and the traditional pass (Jeff Monson calls it a "jailbreak pass").

If you want a walkthrough of any of those, I'm glad to give you one.

Nice to see that the can opener -> double underhook pass works well at high levels. I started experimenting with that last class and had good results, but wasn't sure if it'd hold up against better grapplers.

**IronMan** · 07-13-2008, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by taiwnezboi

Nice to see that the can opener -> double underhook pass works well at high levels. I started experimenting with that last class and had good results, but wasn't sure if it'd hold up against better grapplers.

It works for Jeff Monson. Trust me, it works on a lot of levels. It's also really easy.

Kendrik · 08-03-2008, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by IronMan

I'll walk you through the really basic straight achilles lock that I learned from Steve Maxwell, because it's the one that works best from the guard for me (besides the heel hook, but that's not really a basic move and you should wait a while with that one).

I just learned this in class last week. Thanks for putting it in words. We cover so much in so little time... that it's hard for me to remember everything.

Having read through this whole thread, I just wanted to thank you for all of your tips. I know where to go when I have questions.

Also, rep'd.

**IronMan** · 08-03-2008, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Kendrik

I just learned this in class last week. Thanks for putting it in words. We cover so much in so little time... that it's hard for me to remember everything.

Having read through this whole thread, I just wanted to thank you for all of your tips. I know where to go when I have questions.

Also, rep'd.

Thanks, man.

If you have any questions about details in techniques, feel free to post them.

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