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Old 11-07-2006, 07:57 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Well if you dont want to sprawl and you dont want to shoot run away far away outside the building
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Old 11-08-2006, 10:37 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Why are you not sprawling?

My little brother can stuff a shot with a sprawl, and he's tiny. Strength and speed have way less to do with it then timing it properly, that's why Chuck is so hard to takedown.

Just do basic td defense excersise first. If you do 500 sprawls a day pretty soon you won't be weak and slow. It's good training, if not for the actual conditioning than certainly for the discipline.
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Old 11-19-2006, 02:34 AM   #13 (permalink)
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When they shoot in make sure you only give up one leg (don't let them double leg you), and practice with your balance on the one leg hopping around staying up right. If that's all you do they will eventually be able to finish the takedown, but if you get good from there there are lots of counter attacking options from a well balance single legt attempt.

If they stand up with the single leg (your left) balance and reach across and attack the Kimura on their right arm.

Another option I use if they are standing with the single and have their head on the inside, if you can push their head to the outside of your leg (again if they have your left) hopping around to your right and bending your knee in. Cross face and sit, grabbing their near side leg (their left) from the side. Drive through them, pulling their right arm with the hand you used to cross face, to turn them to their back.

Don't know if I was clear, but those are some sub defenses I play with. In the end though, for shooting style takedowns your best bet is to learn to sprawl well first. Second option would be what I listed above about only giving up one leg.
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Old 11-19-2006, 03:55 PM   #14 (permalink)
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In my opinion you gotta sprawl. It's the most effective way to stuff the takedown. If your saying that your not strong and quick enough just work on your strength conditioning and drill the hell out of the sprawl, that should should help with the timing and speed thing. Also you can plant a knee in your oppenents face when he shoots on you.
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Old 11-20-2006, 09:54 AM   #15 (permalink)
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When they shoot in make sure you only give up one leg (don't let them double leg you), and practice with your balance on the one leg hopping around staying up right. If that's all you do they will eventually be able to finish the takedown, but if you get good from there there are lots of counter attacking options from a well balance single legt attempt.

If they stand up with the single leg (your left) balance and reach across and attack the Kimura on their right arm.

Another option I use if they are standing with the single and have their head on the inside, if you can push their head to the outside of your leg (again if they have your left) hopping around to your right and bending your knee in. Cross face and sit, grabbing their near side leg (their left) from the side. Drive through them, pulling their right arm with the hand you used to cross face, to turn them to their back.

Don't know if I was clear, but those are some sub defenses I play with. In the end though, for shooting style takedowns your best bet is to learn to sprawl well first. Second option would be what I listed above about only giving up one leg.
It's a thought, but anyone with even a hint of common sense would kick out your other leg. I don't know if you've ever heard this saying, but it appllies:

"Give me an inch and I'll take your foot."

Don't give them a leg. Don't give them anything. That's like saying, "I'm going to miss this punch on purpose, because it sets up this other punch." I fantastic way to get KTFO'd.
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Old 11-21-2006, 12:53 AM   #16 (permalink)
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It's a thought, but anyone with even a hint of common sense would kick out your other leg. I don't know if you've ever heard this saying, but it appllies:

"Give me an inch and I'll take your foot."

Don't give them a leg. Don't give them anything. That's like saying, "I'm going to miss this punch on purpose, because it sets up this other punch." I fantastic way to get KTFO'd.
First of all see the last paragraph of my reply...
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Don't know if I was clear, but those are some sub defenses I play with. In the end though, for shooting style takedowns your best bet is to learn to sprawl well first. Second option would be what I listed above about only giving up one leg.
As far as tripping up the leg, well sure you could, but with good balance and an agressive game I could just as easily throw him with an Uchi Mata first (if I practice it and I'm good at it). Remember there are counters to everything, and so no strategy is perfect.

Oh, and it's not the same as missing a punch, sorry. More like not checking a leg kick so you can come over the top with an overhand right to counter.
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