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View Poll Results: Who's the greatest jiu-jitsu practitioner ever?
Fabio Gurgel 2 3.85%
Marcelo Garcia 14 26.92%
Helio Gracie 7 13.46%
Rickson Gracie 20 38.46%
Roger Gracie 2 3.85%
Royler Gracie 3 5.77%
Saulo Ribeiro 1 1.92%
Xande Ribeiro 3 5.77%
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Greatest Jiu-Jitsu Fighter of All Time?

So, I wanted to pose a question to all of you guys. Bother to those who know alot about BJJ and those who don't.

Who's the greatest BJJ practitioner of all time?

I'll explain my vote later.



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You gotta go w/ Rickson Gracie.




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going with Helio, for making it practical, and effective.
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Even though i am super-grateful to the gracies, I have to go with Fabio Gurgel. He's one of the men who made modern grappling teaching guys like Marcelo Garcia how to do the arts. If he wasn't on the list, I'd go with Marcelo Garcia because he is technically the greatest competetive grappler ever. And before we all start humping Rickson't leg some more, consider that he, while he was ahead of his time, the competition he faced was just not as high. And grappling is evolving (and MArcelo and Fabio are part of that evoulution). It would be sad if Rickson was as good as one can get at BJJ, that'd mean that BJJ has reached it's top already; I want to see it evolve to the part where a good black belt in ten years would tool a good blackbelt of today. Evolution = the sh!t.

(Sadly, Rickson hasn't published any instructionals with his view on modern Grappling... I'd so watch it if he had though I mean Rickson is the man and you could easiuly make the argument that he's the greatest ever)

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It would be sad if Rickson was as good as one can get at BJJ, that'd mean that BJJ has reached it's top already; I want to see it evolve to the part where a good black belt in ten years would tool a good blackbelt of today. Evolution = the sh!t.

That's not really how it is though man... sorry. Bjj has already evolved into sport jiu-jitsu and although there are new things becoming popular, such as inverted guard, rubber guard, etc., the basics still reign supreme IMO. I think every single grappler in the world would have trouble with Rickson Gracie




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I voted for Marelo Garcia.
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Even though i am super-grateful to the gracies, I have to go with Fabio Gurgel. He's one of the men who made modern grappling teaching guys like Marcelo Garcia how to do the arts. If he wasn't on the list, I'd go with Marcelo Garcia because he is technically the greatest competetive grappler ever. And before we all start humping Rickson't leg some more, consider that he, while he was ahead of his time, the competition he faced was just not as high. And grappling is evolving (and MArcelo and Fabio are part of that evoulution). It would be sad if Rickson was as good as one can get at BJJ, that'd mean that BJJ has reached it's top already; I want to see it evolve to the part where a good black belt in ten years would tool a good blackbelt of today. Evolution = the sh!t.

(Sadly, Rickson hasn't published any instructionals with his view on modern Grappling... I'd so watch it if he had though I mean Rickson is the man and you could easiuly make the argument that he's the greatest ever)
I was wondering if anyone was going to acknowledge Fabio.

I put him on the list for a reason and though I picked Rickson, Fabio's definitely up there.



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my opinion is way bias because my instructor is a brown belt under Fabio Gurgel and he always talks about how great he is.
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That's not really how it is though man... sorry. Bjj has already evolved into sport jiu-jitsu and although there are new things becoming popular, such as inverted guard, rubber guard, etc., the basics still reign supreme IMO. I think every single grappler in the world would have trouble with Rickson Gracie
But why is that never proved by Rickson himself if thet is the case (please don't give me the "because he would make all of the modern grapplers look stupid" argument)?And if that is the case, don't you think he's using any of the newer techniques? Do you think he's merely using basics? Saying Rickson only uses basic moves and never keeps up to date is almost an insult to such a great grappler.

IMO Rickson is still dangerous, but way less dangerous than his super-awesome hype train suggests. Yes he can still line up and beat black belts. But so can Marcelo Garcia, Jacare, Demian, Roger Gracie and Andre Galvao.

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Wow, I honestly don't even think I can pick one.
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