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Old 09-08-2008, 12:36 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Bujinkan Budo Taijutsu?

Okay I didn't really know where to post this and from what I have gathered this is a semi-grappling martial art, but has anyone heard of this? The college I go to doesn't have BJJ but they do have Bujinkan Budo Taijutsu and I wanted to know if anyone knew about this and knew if it was legit or not.
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Old 09-08-2008, 10:33 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Okay I didn't really know where to post this and from what I have gathered this is a semi-grappling martial art, but has anyone heard of this? The college I go to doesn't have BJJ but they do have Bujinkan Budo Taijutsu and I wanted to know if anyone knew about this and knew if it was legit or not.
Hatsumi is legit, but the style is really an Aikido/JJJ system. It's not going to help you that much in terms of MMA.

Still, some training is better than no training.
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Hatsumi is legit, but the style is really an Aikido/JJJ system. It's not going to help you that much in terms of MMA.

Still, some training is better than no training.
Oh I don't want to do MMA, I just want something that is at least applicable. I've never really taken things like Ninjistu seriously, no offense to anyone that practices that, but I trust your judgment Ironman!
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Old 09-09-2008, 11:05 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Agree, the Hatsumi stuff is legit but the grappling is nothing like BJJ. There is good stuff to learn from them however.
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My advice is, if they offer it at your college, take it. Community college you pay maybe 20 bucks for 3 1/2 months. Universities you don't pay extra, unless that one unit pushes you from part time to full time. The clubs on campus are mostly free, if they have dues is usually like 50 bucks a semester.

That's not a bad deal to experience something different.
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Old 09-17-2008, 04:06 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Okay I didn't really know where to post this and from what I have gathered this is a semi-grappling martial art, but has anyone heard of this? The college I go to doesn't have BJJ but they do have Bujinkan Budo Taijutsu and I wanted to know if anyone knew about this and knew if it was legit or not.
I see that Ninjutsu, or Taijutsu in the hand to hand form that we are speaking of, has given me a great basis for fighting, with the close quarters nature of the art. (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taijutsu for further). Some call it martial science, I hate who the Prase is connected with Frank Dux of Dux Ryu, but truly that is the way we should think of it. Most Fighters only think about force and of physics when they are on the ground in their "BJJ Mode" if at all.

In Taijutsu, as in most japanese arts we are taught to use our opponents energy/force against them. Many times in MMA there is wasted energy in fighting. There is no "Flowing" with the fight, No redirection of our opponents force or mental attention. Most fighters (as am I) are willing to take a hit, BUT what if you stepped out of the way of the strike and instead of letting them make contact? What if that fighter ran into your fist or knee rather than you wasting energy to strike them? What if You Could do nerve strike and drop them to the ground? In Taijutsu, we are simply taught to try not to get hit.


As Far as my other art, Karate, I have gained confidence in my ability TO attack when it is be needed. I see that in many MMA fights there are alot of people that just want to stand and trade blows....Most will throw a punch-punch-kick combitation then back off and wait for the oppoent to attack them next. Many fights go back and forth like that the whole time. I'm sure that is what fans want to see, but THAT is NOT how we as martial artists are or should be taught to fight. Most of us know that once you engage or are engaged you should NOT stop till it is resolved, other wise you are still at risk of more harm. When we are attacked we should respond with the proper amount of force to end the fight, nothing less.

I am becoming a better "grappler" (also apart of Taijutsu) because of the wrestling practice that I am doing. Because of my back ground in "Sports Med" and athletic training I am doing over all conditioning with weights, sparing, heavy bag use and other forms of Cardio.

I truly feel that where one art has fallen short the others has "picked up the ball".

Oh forgot to mention, Tiajutsu was my first style for black belt.
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Old 09-20-2008, 05:54 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I"ve taken it; it wasn't legit. I know a few people who took it somewhere else, and they didn't find it to be legit either.

I've watched Human Weapon where Bill and Jason held their own against Hatsumi's high-ranking guys in weapons sparring (which Jason and Bill had barely done before). Also, Jason destroyed his opponent in a brief instance of hand to hand combat.

I've practiced some kendo, some kenjutsu, and some german longsword before. I did a lot of sword training for about two years, and honestly, even the swordsmanship displayed on the Human Weapon Ninjutsu episode was pretty crappy.

If I were you, I'd find a different club.
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Old 09-21-2008, 02:13 AM   #8 (permalink)
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How long did your train? Did your recieve a belt? Was it someone connected with ashida kim,if it was then you got screwed.

And I agree that eppisode was of sub MA quality, but for non MA fans of the show it proved alot to those that tihnk it a B.S. MA. I know that As a whole the way my style has been depected on tele and in films is poor...the same way is has been with EVERY MA. Remember it's only an hour show, and real Ninjutsu it too complex to fit into an hour. Blame the producers of the show not the style.

My style is so complex that one cannot judge it until they
fully exposed to a good school/shidoshi and really experience the many styles that make up Ninjutsu.
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