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Old 02-11-2009, 10:45 PM   #11 (permalink)
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wearing a gi makes your escapes true, because the sweat factor anyone can slip. with a gi it is harder to break grips, keep posture, keep from getting swept. your opponet has much greater control of you and there is many more sumbitions available.

please tell these guys that learing with a gi is ineffective, they must have not got that memo.

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Old 02-12-2009, 04:02 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I don't really think you can say one is better than the other. They both help. I have heard though, that if you do Gi for a while, it makes the transition to no-gi so much easier. But that could happen the other way around too. No-gi is a bit more sloppy, where as Gi is a bit more technical.
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Old 02-12-2009, 06:47 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Both for MMA.

They both teach you different points vital to MMA on the ground.
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Old 02-14-2009, 03:32 PM   #15 (permalink)
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so it doesnt matter which one i do first?
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Old 02-14-2009, 08:06 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Personally, I'm on the Eddie Bravo philosophy: No Gi if you intend on participating in no-gi forms of competitions.

In my very personal oppinion the reason why so many gi players are winning in no-gi as well is simply that about 99% of all gyms that teaches good grappling are mainly Gi-gyms. I can only think of like Eddie Bravo when I try to consider the No-gi gyms there are.

(Plus, I enjoy no-gi sparring MUCH more, so maybe I'm just finding the "facts" that suits my training style )

Be that as it may: History has at least showed that it's not necessary for you to train with the gi to be able to tap asses in MMA: Saku and Josh Barnett never even trained with the gi. So if anything, the Gi is at least not mandatory in order to be a good grappler.
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A lot of gi stuff can be translated into street fights because, you know, people wear clothes a lot when they're out and about. Apparently it's easier to learn nogi if you started with gi, but it's a lot harder to go form nogo to gi. Having never done any gi, I can neither confirm or deny this. Should I roll up to my next class in a bathrobe?
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Gi to no-gi is without a doubt a much easier transition than no-gi to gi.
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Old 02-15-2009, 12:04 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Personally, I'm on the Eddie Bravo philosophy: No Gi if you intend on participating in no-gi forms of competitions.

In my very personal oppinion the reason why so many gi players are winning in no-gi as well is simply that about 99% of all gyms that teaches good grappling are mainly Gi-gyms. I can only think of like Eddie Bravo when I try to consider the No-gi gyms there are.

(Plus, I enjoy no-gi sparring MUCH more, so maybe I'm just finding the "facts" that suits my training style )

Be that as it may: History has at least showed that it's not necessary for you to train with the gi to be able to tap asses in MMA: Saku and Josh Barnett never even trained with the gi. So if anything, the Gi is at least not mandatory in order to be a good grappler.
eddie bravo started with a gi on, speaking of eddie bravo how many of his students that have began nogi only have taken medals from major tournaments.
and all 10th planet guys seem to forget about a guy named leo vieira a gi guy beating a nogi guy at nogi..
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eddie bravo started with a gi on, speaking of eddie bravo how many of his students that have began nogi only have taken medals from major tournaments.
and all 10th planet guys seem to forget about a guy named leo vieira a gi guy beating a nogi guy at nogi..
I did list a reason that most of the mayor players have a gi background: that 99% of the good gyms are gi! Also, His brownbelts beat blackbelts in competition. Sean Bolinger is a good example. Jerome Basilio is like 19, 20 or something and he's owning people all over the place.

And I do know of Viera, but he does actually grapple a lot withut the gi (and the transition from gi to no gi is not THAT hard). But still Kazushi tapped some Gracies and Barnett grappled on even terms with Big Nog. Neither grappled with the gi as far as I know. If the gi is so good, why don't you train wrestling with the gi as well?

Just another side of the case. And of course extremely biased towards me, since I prefer no-gi because I enjoy it more. Way, way more. A thing that happened to me when I made the transition is that half of my submission game dissapeared: The arm bars from guard gets different (no sleve, more sweat etc.), the Anaconda, RNC and brabo choke were very difficult to do with the gi (so you didn't really do them) and all the gi chokes are gone. Personally I felt I got sloppier WITH the gi: I was leaving way too much space and didn't properlöy use the over and underhooks.
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