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TheSuplexor 12-03-2006 03:21 PM

Ten BJJ moves every cop should know...with a twist
 
The Ten Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Moves Every Police Officer Should Know
these probably have helped them tremendously even knowing only 10 moves!
So here's the twist, if you could only know 10 moves for a street encounter what would they be, they can be grappling or striking oriented.
for me it would be basic and frequent positions that you get stuck in.
1. Doublelegtakedown (good to know how to take it to the ground)
2. GnP (knowing how to throw elbows from on top)
3. Mount position
4. Knowing how to kimura the top man from guard position
5. RNC
6. Leglock ,easy to finish them off with after the double
7. Counter to the Headlock
8. Knowing how to keep opponent in the closed guard
9. Countering the shirt grab, with a wrist lock
10. Knowing how to close the distance and get to the clinch

From here the encounter could be finished like this easily:
Tackle them with a double and easily finish them with a leglock or mount them, throw some elbows, let them roll over and proceed to choke them out with a RnC.
So what are your ten moves in a street encounter?

Kameleon 12-03-2006 06:05 PM

1.Singleleg Takedown
2.Doubleleg Takedown
3.Hip Toss
4.Ground N Pound
5.Kimura
6.Armbar
7.Leglock
8.Clinching
9.Elbows
10.Knees

From my list you can easily grapple the opponent to the ground and end with GnP, Kimura, Armbar, or Leglock. When fighting standing up, go for the clinch then finish with elbows and kneew. From the clinch you can go to takedowns #1-3 and end on the ground. This list is very well rounded and easy to understand.

TheSuplexor 12-03-2006 06:08 PM

good list...probably better then mine...is a leglock easy to get?

IronMan 12-03-2006 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by doublelegtakedown
good list...probably better then mine...is a leglock easy to get?

Not easy to get, but good to know.

My list is probably something more related to small-circle jujitsu/aikido and probably looks a little more like this.

1) Kote-gaishi (small-circle wrist lock/throw)
2) Straight crossbody armbar
3) Kimura
4) Americana
5) Rear naked choke
6) Kneebar
7) Shiho nage (throw leading into Americana and other armlocks)
8) Nikkyo (frontal wrist lock)
9) Sankyo (armlock leading into any number of techniques)
10) Arm-triangles

TheSuplexor 12-03-2006 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by IronMan
Not easy to get, but good to know.

My list is probably something more related to small-circle jujitsu/aikido and probably looks a little more like this.

1) Kote-gaishi (small-circle wrist lock/throw)
2) Straight crossbody armbar
3) Kimura
4) Americana
5) Rear naked choke
6) Kneebar
7) Shiho nage (throw leading into Americana and other armlocks)
8) Nikkyo (frontal wrist lock)
9) Sankyo (armlock leading into any number of techniques)
10) Arm-triangles

you seriously would need to know that many chokes and subs for a street fight? Plus you need to get the position before you can apply those moves....and looking back at mine i would add another takedown which could be used on bigger opponents like a single...
this was where i got the double to leglock idea Template
but it would be easy to get on an unskilled ground fighter, right?
Ironman how long have you been doing bjj?

TheSuplexor 12-03-2006 06:47 PM

double post....

IronMan 12-03-2006 06:51 PM

I don't. I gave up on the BJJ syllabus once I came up with a way to beat it. That bit will follow, probably later tonight when I clear up my desktop.

I think that a cop should use as few takedowns as possible because it's a heavy liability on cement. The quick chokes and the armbars and the Aikido techniques keep everything quick in a street fight, which gives both fighters less time to f*ck themselves, and each other, up.

It's just an opinion, and I'm not a cop, but I think that's how it should work.

TheSuplexor 12-03-2006 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by IronMan
I don't. I gave up on the BJJ syllabus once I came up with a way to beat it. That bit will follow, probably later tonight when I clear up my desktop.

I think that a cop should use as few takedowns as possible because it's a heavy liability on cement. The quick chokes and the armbars and the Aikido techniques keep everything quick in a street fight, which gives both fighters less time to f*ck themselves, and each other, up.

It's just an opinion, and I'm not a cop, but I think that's how it should work.

but when you get the takedown you will only be likely to be kneeling on the conrete...you used to do aikido? i learned an aikido wrist lock when your shirt gets grabbed off the internet....works well:D
and obviously there are ways to beat bjj....

IronMan 12-03-2006 07:16 PM

Yeah, but you end up smashing the other guys back on the concrete, and that's gets into a nasty law suit. Regardless of whether or not the guy is a criminal, if you do enough damage to him you will end up in court.

TheSuplexor 12-03-2006 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by IronMan
Yeah, but you end up smashing the other guys back on the concrete, and that's gets into a nasty law suit. Regardless of whether or not the guy is a criminal, if you do enough damage to him you will end up in court.

not if you get in and out before the cops come:D and you probably won't get sued if the guy attacks or tries to mug you:rolleyes:


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