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Old 08-05-2009, 10:25 AM   #1 (permalink)
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A few questions on the mount

OK well I've wrestled for many years now, so I have a strong base. I'm also very flexible. However, I seem to have a lot of problems with the mount position, and because of this I assume I am technically inproficient.

I've only been doing jujitsu for about a month and I don't get to go often, so I'm not really very good.

So my questions are
1. How do you do a gogoplata from mount. I know I'm felxible enough, however I'm not sure how to time it, how high I have to be to start, and what base I should keep before attempting it.

2. Same question except with the Americana (I've pulled it off a few times but I get the feeling I'm not doing it correctly because I have to use quite a bit of torch to tapp people with it).

3. What other submissions can you pull of from mount (as opposed to setting them up)

4. What other mount escapes are there then bridging and shrimping

Any help would be greatly appreciated
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Old 08-05-2009, 12:24 PM   #2 (permalink)
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i've seen an Eddie Bravo video about doing a triangle from the mount, but again being Eddie Bravo is was a super flexible move.

but i've seen an Anaconda & a top Guillotine from the mount when the guy tries to posture up.
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Old 08-05-2009, 05:25 PM   #3 (permalink)
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OK well I've wrestled for many years now, so I have a strong base. I'm also very flexible. However, I seem to have a lot of problems with the mount position, and because of this I assume I am technically inproficient.

I've only been doing jujitsu for about a month and I don't get to go often, so I'm not really very good.

So my questions are
1. How do you do a gogoplata from mount. I know I'm felxible enough, however I'm not sure how to time it, how high I have to be to start, and what base I should keep before attempting it.

2. Same question except with the Americana (I've pulled it off a few times but I get the feeling I'm not doing it correctly because I have to use quite a bit of torch to tapp people with it).

3. What other submissions can you pull of from mount (as opposed to setting them up)

4. What other mount escapes are there then bridging and shrimping

Any help would be greatly appreciated
1.

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3. Armbar, triangle choke, guillotine choke, etc.

4.

Hope this helped.
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Old 08-06-2009, 10:44 PM   #4 (permalink)
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If you have trouble staying in the mount, doing a gogoplata should be the least of your worries.

"Skydiving" is a good way to maintain mount while your opponent bucks, etc. Once he slows, you want to sneak your knees high, into their arm pits.

But mayb learn the "gangsta lean".....youtube is your friend.
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Old 08-06-2009, 10:57 PM   #5 (permalink)
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If you have trouble staying in the mount, doing a gogoplata should be the least of your worries.

"Skydiving" is a good way to maintain mount while your opponent bucks, etc. Once he slows, you want to sneak your knees high, into their arm pits.

But mayb learn the "gangsta lean".....youtube is your friend.
Yea if your having trouble keeping the mount do not worry about subs except the most basic ones from the mount..
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Old 08-07-2009, 11:39 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I think I may have been unclear. I don't have trouble keeping mount, as I said I have a good base. I also have very good flexibility because I'm double jointed at the knees, so I figure the gogoplata is the perfect submission for me.

When I said what other escapes are there, I mean other escapes I can do. Because I actually have a pretty good gaurd and half gaurd, but when my opponent is in side control or mount, I am absolutley useless.
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Old 08-08-2009, 02:05 AM   #7 (permalink)
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OK well I've wrestled for many years now, so I have a strong base. I'm also very flexible. However, I seem to have a lot of problems with the mount position, and because of this I assume I am technically inproficient.
With the mount, it's not necessarily purely an issue of technical proficiency (thought that has a lot to do with it).

It's also about using your weight and keeping your opponent from scrambling.

Slow the game down when you get the mount. This is something that you pick up as you train more.


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So my questions are
1. How do you do a gogoplata from mount. I know I'm felxible enough, however I'm not sure how to time it, how high I have to be to start, and what base I should keep before attempting it.
If you've only been at jiu-jitsu for a month, you really shouldn't be working the gogoplata from mount.

I will say, the best way to set it up, if you're a beginning, is to turn over to the S-Mount (which will get you up really high) and if they defend the armbar, slip the shin underneath your opponent's chin, bring your hips back square with your opponents chest and drive the shin forward.

This is really the ghetto, white belt version of the gogoplata, but it should get the job done.


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2. Same question except with the Americana (I've pulled it off a few times but I get the feeling I'm not doing it correctly because I have to use quite a bit of torch to tapp people with it).
So, get the arm to about a 90 degree angle, drop your top elbow down to your opponent's ear with the hand on the wrist.

Keep both elbows down (and your chest low) as you apply the armlock.

I see lots of guys pull up and let their elbows come off the mat, and it lets your opponent buck a lot, which makes finishing much harder than it needs to be.


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3. What other submissions can you pull of from mount (as opposed to setting them up)
The armbar works effectively from mount.

Gi chokes.

Guillotine choke.

Mostly, though, the top is about pounding your opponent. It really is a position that came into Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu because of the striking potential of the position. There are a huge number of setups, because you can set up attacks on the back and the side control.


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4. What other mount escapes are there then bridging and shrimping
Escapes to the guard are all about slipping the legs in.

Escapes to the top are all about bucking. Those are two moves that are the basis of all of the escapes.

The buck and shrimp (and they should be used together, when mounted) is a great way to slip the legs in. For now, you should focus on getting back to the closed guard. Later, there are ways to slip to the Butterfly guard and sweeps that follow, as well as the X-Guard and Half Guard.

But it all starts with the bridge and shrimp.
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to add submissions from mount, you can do a triangle
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