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post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old 08-20-2009, 04:57 PM Thread Starter
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Great,Good, Bad or real bad? What do you think? I dont use it myself and dont know many people who can effectively use it. If you guys have vids on defending it, please post. Here are a couple vids on the basics
http://www.hypoxicstate.com/play.php?vid=141
http://www.hypoxicstate.com/play.php?vid=139
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My favorite submission is the gogoplata, so whenever someone uses the rubber guard correctly, I get all excited like. You can't sit tthere and tell me you don't pop a boner when BJ or Aoki pull the rubber guard with so much ease! LOVE IT!

It's honestly not used enough in MMA me thinks, but that could have somthing to do with how hard it is to pull off.



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My favorite submission is the gogoplata, so whenever someone uses the rubber guard correctly, I get all excited like. You can't sit tthere and tell me you don't pop a boner when BJ or Aoki pull the rubber guard with so much ease! LOVE IT!

It's honestly not used enough in MMA me thinks, but that could have somthing to do with how hard it is to pull off.
IF that "You can't sit there and tell me you don't pop a boner" was directed at me, I dont dislike the rubberguard, I just dont use it. Started the thread to see how many people use it and how they defend it
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As in defend against a rubber guard? Well simple answer to that is, don't let the guy break your posture down. Once you are broken down into his rubber guard posturing up gets a little tough.

I don't use it myself, yet, I'm not flexible enough but I'm working on it. From what I've seen of those who know how to use it, it looks great.

I agree with CB that it is underused in MMA, and I would love to see more of it.
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IF that "You can't sit there and tell me you don't pop a boner" was directed at me, I dont dislike the rubberguard, I just dont use it. Started the thread to see how many people use it and how they defend it
i train in bjj, and my favortie move is also gogoplata, i use rubber guard to transistion to gogo, omoplata and triangles

hw- mir, fedor, big nog
lhw- soszynski, griffin, bones
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ww- rumble, mayhem, fitch
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fw- yamamoto, faber, pulver
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Meh. I think that the rubber guard is good in that it encourages fighters to control their opponents posture. I see so many guys try and shoot armbars on an opponent who's postured up all the way, and it's just ridiculous.

In that sense, it's really important to understand the significance of the high guard on a broken down opponent. The ability to control the head and shoulders in the rubber guard is great.

On the other hand, I tend to prefer a standard high guard at this point in my training on the basis that I have more experience with traditional Gracie Jiu-Jitsu and my high guard is much more dangerous than the rubber guard.

Don't get me wrong, though, if my opponent puts a hand in the floor while in my guard, I'm going straight for the jiu-claw.



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I use it. It works, but should be incorporated into your standard fundamental game. The 10pjj half-guard is all I use though, very effective.

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