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Old 08-30-2009, 11:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Okay so right now I'm trying to make a decison about wrestling. I'm currently training in Mixed Martial Arts with my foundation being Bushidokan. For those of you who dont know what it is The Bushidokan Art is a combination of Okinawan karate, judo, and jujitsu, with the primary emphasis on karate. The karate portion of Bushidokan's training is quite similar to Shorin-ryu definitely Okinawan in ancestry...

I know alot of takedowns of course from judo, and my grappling of course from the jujitsu. A couple of my friends also train in jujitsu, and BJJ and say that when they started training in wrestling it hurt their jujitsu. I'm just curious people's opinion if Wreslting for my school would hurt me.

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Old 08-31-2009, 10:43 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I don't know if it would hurt your jiu jitsu but the difference is wrestlers are more than usual uncomfortable on their back and when there back their main goal would be how to get the dominate position, while in jiu jitsu people tend to stay more composed on their back. Thats the main difference between the two that might counteract.
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Old 09-03-2009, 11:19 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Okay so right now I'm trying to make a decison about wrestling. I'm currently training in Mixed Martial Arts with my foundation being Bushidokan. For those of you who dont know what it is The Bushidokan Art is a combination of Okinawan karate, judo, and jujitsu, with the primary emphasis on karate. The karate portion of Bushidokan's training is quite similar to Shorin-ryu definitely Okinawan in ancestry...

I know alot of takedowns of course from judo, and my grappling of course from the jujitsu. A couple of my friends also train in jujitsu, and BJJ and say that when they started training in wrestling it hurt their jujitsu. I'm just curious people's opinion if Wreslting for my school would hurt me.
Adding another style never hurt anyone.

I've trained a good deal of Greco Roman wrestling, and it's really helped my Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, Judo and MMA games. As long as you understand what you're working towards (which, it sounds like, is improving your MMA game), and you understand that some of the moves in wresting are not going to be applicable, then you're going to be in a good position to learn a lot.

Wrestling is important. The takedowns in folkstyle wrestling are really good, really applicable, so go for it.

As long as you acknowledge that escaping the pin by giving up your back is not a valid defense, and that there are other habits that your training partners will have that are good for wrestling, but that you are going to want to keep out of your game, personally, then it's a great idea.
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I don't know if it would hurt your jiu jitsu but the difference is wrestlers are more than usual uncomfortable on their back and when there back their main goal would be how to get the dominate position, while in jiu jitsu people tend to stay more composed on their back. Thats the main difference between the two that might counteract.
I also wanted to respond to this post.

The biggest problem wrestlers have is not that they're uncomfortable on their back so much as how they avoid ending up on their back.

Sure, it's important for a jiu-jitsu fighter to be comfortable on his back, but it's easy, once you develop the guard, to avoid that discomfort.

However, it's much harder to break a habit like escaping from your back by going to the turtle, which is a bad habit in jiu-jitsu.

The problem is not that their uncomfortable, it's that the way that they stay off of the back are bad for jiu-jitsu.

I think that's an important differentiation, personally.
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