Xeberus, perhaps I have misrepresented myself, my experience, and my training here.
I’m not saying by ANY means that BJJ is the end all, beat all style of all times. I do agree that some of what you are saying does make sense and in a situation where you are facing multiple attackers BJJ isn’t near the best style out there. On the same note I have people come to me all the time and say the same thing…what if 4 or 5 guys jump me? What’s the best fighting style? My honest answer is be a really good runner because there is no good fighting style to take on multiple attackers even though there are many that claim to be.
In the situation stated the guy who I choked unconscious had walked toward me and away from his buddies that were still standing by his car. By the time they could have even reacted he was on the ground and unconscious. Someone who KNOWS how to choke someone properly can do so in a matter of seconds with the correct pressure applied. I don’t see why I would not remember?? To be honest all I do is train so a fight is not quite as adrenaline pumping as it might be to someone who’s not…to me a person wanting too start a fight with me is more of a nuscence than anything. I know to keep calm and do what I train to do.
As far as bringing the fight to the ground I’m not going to really force it to the ground. When I was a child I started training in Shorin-Ryu Karate. After receiving my black belt I met a guy that did Muay-thai kickboxing and began training with him. I trained with him for almost 7 years before I met a guy that did BJJ and went and tried it out. When I first went down the guy told me that I could punch, kick, knee, or whatever else I felt I needed to do and I got the same result multiple times…he took me down and submitted me. That’s when I began training in BJJ; although I do still train in muay-thai. Whether it stays standing or goes to the ground I’m prepared to a certain degree, but I feel it’s best to be well rounded and versed in both because if you are great at fighting standing what are you going to do when a grappler takes you down?
So don’t get me wrong, I realize completely there are flaws to every fighting style. Street fighting is not something that I promote by any means and 9 out of 10 times I’m going to try and talk my way out of a fight, but in the rare instance that I can’t talk my way out I want to be completely prepared no matter what happens.
Also I’ve come across those who have said “BJJ wouldn’t work in a real fight, I’d just punch you in the balls or in the throat on the ground”. My cousin was one such person…we are within 10lbs. and I told him to try. I got him down and got in several different positions and said “punch me in the balls…in the throat…gouge my eyes…do anything dirty you can do”. With superior positioning and staying completely tight (like you are supposed to in BJJ) he could not hit me in the throat, eyes, or groin in side control, mount, back control, guard, or knee on belly without dire concequences. Basically he got caught in a submission hold every time he tried to make a move to get a hold of something.
I think BJJ has merit in a fight just as well as MT or any other style. It has it’s place and can be adapted quite well for a fight if you train to prevent yourself from taking damage from your opponent while capitalizing on their mistakes. Then again when you have multiple attackers all bets are off no matter what you train.