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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 11-05-2009, 09:05 AM Thread Starter
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Learning a New Grappling Art?

I've been doing Japanese Jujitsu for several years and am nearly ignorant to BJJ, Sambo and Wrestling. I want to learn a new grappling art if for no other reason than to be able to test my J3 skills against other skilled artists.

Which grappling art would be most likely to work me the hardest and provide me with the knowledge and skills to counter martial artists versed in the aforementioned skills?
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Why just one?

Most gyms that I have been too that do one have guys who are experience in other styles...I know in our gym we have college wrestlers, black belts in Judo, experienced BJJ guys, sambo guys, etc...
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I've considered adding judo but havent found a decent school in the area. I want some bjj but haven't been impressed by the bjj opponents ive had enough to say "okay, I need this,"
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It's all about finding the right school. I have been to plenty of BJJ schools and left saying "wow, that sucked" and then been to plenty where I leave saying "wow, those dudes are awesome".

Judo guys are normally better with takedowns than BJJ guys, but BJJ guys are normally better than Judo guys on the ground.
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Thats the issue with J3 its more heavily weighed on the taking down and less on the submitting. However if I ever need to snap someone's femur after I knock them down, I'm good to gowith the J3. Damn these war-based fighting styles!
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Judo and jiujitsu

I practiced judo for 15 years. I can say its very effective. If you add jiujitsu practice to a judo practice, you close the cirle. Thats what I did. Why? Because judo doesn't have legs locks. So you have to learn them with jiujitsu or sambo or submission wrestling.

But if i were you, I'd go with BJJ. Ground is more important than take-downs in MMA. Coming from a judo guy like me...

You can't finish a guy with a take down in the cage. But on the hard pavemant of the streets, with guys that don't know how to fall, yes you can greatly injure someone.

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I practiced judo for 15 years. I can say its very effective. If you add jiujitsu practice to a judo practice, you close the cirle. Thats what I did. Why? Because judo doesn't have legs locks. So you have to learn them with jiujitsu or sambo or submission wrestling.

But if i were you, I'd go with BJJ. Ground is more important than take-downs in MMA. Coming from a judo guy like me...

You can't finish a guy with a take down in the cage. But on the hard pavemant of the streets, with guys that don't know how to fall, yes you can greatly injure someone.
No doubt there, if you can say hip toss someone on concrete and they have no idea how to fall properly the fight is over.
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I went and tried out a judo class. The instructor was cool enough to allow me to spar with one of their guys. I really wasn't impressed. It honestly was so similar to J3 that only a few weight shifts and a little submission was different along with the names of almost everything. But the concept was the same.

I analyzed the situation and decided my lack of strong position-control background and training on the ground (i.e. wrestling and BJJ or possibly sambo, I'm not up on sambo's content) is my most major flaw.

Which would the grappling versed suggest?
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If you want straight grappling knowledge then I think BJJ is a great choice. Most classes do work takedowns, but not near as much as Judo or Sambo. The majority of the time is spent on the mat rolling.
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