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Old 01-06-2007, 07:27 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Cael Sanderson and Dan Gable are the top freeStyle wrestlers in the history of the USA,although I"m not sure where freestyle wrestling would actually stack up in this discussion.

Although alot of former wrestlers not in these guys wrestling class have /are having succesful MMA careers.
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Old 01-08-2007, 10:51 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Was Barnett a ncaa national champion for wrestling
No, but he's beaten a few on the ground (Randy Couture and Dan Severn). That's why he comes up. It's more of his principled application of wrestling and catch. If you want to talk college wrestlers in MMA then I would say Randleman, but actual wrestling ability in an octagon or ring, right now it's Barnett.
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This is definitely a broad question. Here's my short list:

Jeff Monson
Dean Lister
Fedor (best Sambo)
Hidehiko Yoshida (best Judo)
Big Nog (best BJJ, at least from an MMA standpoint)
Josh Barnett (best wrestling)
BJ Penn (as far as lightweight grappling)
Xande Ribiero (strictly sub-grappling competition, but he's the best in my opinion)
Rulon Gardner (Olympic Gold Medalist: Roman Greco)
Roger Gracie (gotta be one on the list)

That's just my input.
I'd like to amend this list to include just one name:

Roger Gracie

His performance at Mundials this year was the greatest single performance by a grappler in the history of the sport. I have no doubt that the guy's the best that there is.

That said, I love watching his matchups with Xande Ribeiro (who I consider a close second).
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Old 11-13-2009, 12:26 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Is Fedor still participating in ADCC? heard he was going to a while ago but never heard any updates, especially after all that contract insanity
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Is Fedor still participating in ADCC? heard he was going to a while ago but never heard any updates, especially after all that contract insanity
He was supposed to compete this year. He dropped out (along with many MMA fighters who were supposed to compete).
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GSP was offered a tryout for the Canadian Olympic wrestling team and i think he is by far the gold standard of wrestling in MMA, with no college pedigree to boot.

Ill admit i havent seen many Barnett fights, maybe 5, and ive never seen him use his wrestling.
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I'd like to amend this list to include just one name:

Roger Gracie

His performance at Mundials this year was the greatest single performance by a grappler in the history of the sport. I have no doubt that the guy's the best that there is.

That said, I love watching his matchups with Xande Ribeiro (who I consider a close second).
Hey Ironman, Whats your impression of Matt Hume? Didn't he start ADCC?
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Hey Ironman, Whats your impression of Matt Hume? Didn't he start ADCC?
It's not as simple as him 'starting' ADCC. He was involved in getting it running, and he was part of Sheikh Zayed's inspiration for starting the competition.

Matt Hume is one of those guys that everyone seems to have a really deep respect for. His leglocks are supposed to be really amazing and I'm sure his technical knowledge is terrific.

He's not really that much of a competitor anymore, though. And in his prime I'd never locate him in the ranks of a lot of the guys that have been mentioned in this thread. I don't think of him like a Roger Gracie or a Marcelo Garcia type figure. I think of him more like Pat Miletich; he was one of the best fighters in the world, but his major contribution is in terms of his coaching.
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