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ozz525 12-25-2006 10:04 PM

Who is the best grappler in the world
 
Who in your opinion is the best grappler in the world MMA or non MMA

Asian Sensation 12-25-2006 11:18 PM

mma wise big nog comes to mind

mrmyz 12-26-2006 01:19 AM

I dont think its a fair question to ask because there are alot of skillful people out there that arent in the lime light. So when people ask stuff like this you cant really give a good answer. Alot of the BJJ and other types of grappeling dont impress me because its so common. There are some really good grapplers out there that use alot of small joint manipulation that is really effective and people dont practice alot. There are also grapplers out there that focus on pressure points to attain submitions and to escape submitions.

My dad was in the marines and he was stationed in Germany for awhile. My dad was really into judo back then and Judo is really big in europe. One of my dads favorite submitions was the triangle choke which is used alot in Judo. He told me that he participated in this big event in europe that was a tournament of some sort. So while he was there he said he ended up putting some one in a triangle choke and then they ended up escaping but they did it through nerve manipulation.

The guy hit a spot somewhere on his leg and then his leg relaxed and the guy got out of the triangle or some crap like that. Which goes to show you there are people out there that can use nerve manipulation to there advantage. Aside from some of the old practitioners of some dieing arts in japan and some chinese systems you dont really hear about that stuff.

Theres also a way to squeeze both of your temples with your thumb and pointer finger that can disorient you if you know how to hit the spot

NICK C 12-26-2006 11:40 AM

I would say the BJJ guys are the best grapplers because that's all they focuss on in their training. Guys like Roger Gracie, Xande Ribiero and so forth. In MMA I would say Big Nog and BJ is pretty ggod.

Ybot 12-27-2006 01:16 AM

It depends on what grappling rules you are referring to. BJJ rules, I'd say Jacare, Roger Gracie, Xande Ribiero, and Marcelo Garcia are the best right now.

Sub-Grappling would be Jacare, Roger, Marcelo Garcia, Xande, Lister, and Arona.

MMA grappling would be Mach Sakurai, BJ Penn, Arona, Lister, both Nogieras, and Busta. Actually there are alot of good judo grapplers entering MMA lately too. Nakumura, Yoshida, etc.

I don't keep up with the judo world, but you could look up the latest Judo world champions, and Olympians.

Also, don't forget Freestyle, and Greco Roman Wresling.

mrmyz 12-27-2006 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ybot
It depends on what grappling rules you are referring to. BJJ rules, I'd say Jacare, Roger Gracie, Xande Ribiero, and Marcelo Garcia are the best right now.

Sub-Grappling would be Jacare, Roger, Marcelo Garcia, Xande, Lister, and Arona.

MMA grappling would be Mach Sakurai, BJ Penn, Arona, Lister, both Nogieras, and Busta. Actually there are alot of good judo grapplers entering MMA lately too. Nakumura, Yoshida, etc.

I don't keep up with the judo world, but you could look up the latest Judo world champions, and Olympians.

Also, don't forget Freestyle, and Greco Roman Wresling.

Yeah I forgot to mention that good post. Theres an old saying I love to use. He who sets the rules wins the game.

Lightfall 12-27-2006 07:04 AM

Josh barnett IMO, it's not just about grappling skills but the perfect combination of skill and strength. That's why barnett beat nogueira even though they were pretty much of equal skill.

mrmyz 12-27-2006 07:12 AM

theres a ranking system online for grappeling which has a worldwide database. why dont you look that up?

IronMan 12-30-2006 10:50 PM

This is definitely a broad question. Here's my short list:

Jeff Monson
Dean Lister
Fedor (best Sambo)
Hidehiko Yoshida (best Judo)
Big Nog (best BJJ, at least from an MMA standpoint)
Josh Barnett (best wrestling)
BJ Penn (as far as lightweight grappling)
Xande Ribiero (strictly sub-grappling competition, but he's the best in my opinion)
Rulon Gardner (Olympic Gold Medalist: Roman Greco)
Roger Gracie (gotta be one on the list)

That's just my input.

ozz525 12-30-2006 10:53 PM

Was Barnett a ncaa national champion for wrestling


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