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Old 01-04-2007, 09:59 PM   #11 (permalink)
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So what are some effective take downs to learn for this aside from the double leg take down?
Damn. Do you want the short list or the long list.

From a wrestling standpoint, the best things are the direct, quick takedowns that put you in a good position to do damage, so here's the short list for that:

Straight Single-leg
Low Single
Inside leg trip
Suplexes

From a judo standpoint, which is where I have a little more experience, you want to set up a short pound into a submission scenario. Here's my favorites:

Straight hip throw
Hip drag (also called a spinning hip throw)
Should toss
Elbow toss
Anything Otoshi waza

There are also more elaborate flying submissions that I would take a look at, assuming this competition is a little way off. They allow you to finish someone with a crappy ground game before you even take the fight to the ground. Here are my favorites:

Flying ankle lock (a la Ryo Chonan)
Flying kneebar
Back rolling armbar from the clinch
Flying guillotine choke
Legsweep into a kimura
Legsweep into a rear anklelock
Flying RNC as a counter to a double leg takedown (a la Frank Shamrock)

If you need anything explained, just let me know.
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Old 01-04-2007, 11:10 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Here are the take downs im training with this guy so far. Mostly because these are ones that I myself wanted to work on so im killing two birds with one stone. As soon as he gets them down we will just start practicing throwing them on each other and the other persons objective will be to sprawl and resist. That way we get take down practice and sprawling together at once. He can sprawl pretty decent already.

Leg Pinch
Tomo Nage
The swim

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Standard Double Leg
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Old 01-04-2007, 11:12 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Damn. Do you want the short list or the long list.

From a wrestling standpoint, the best things are the direct, quick takedowns that put you in a good position to do damage, so here's the short list for that:

Straight Single-leg
Low Single
Inside leg trip
Suplexes

From a judo standpoint, which is where I have a little more experience, you want to set up a short pound into a submission scenario. Here's my favorites:

Straight hip throw
Hip drag (also called a spinning hip throw)
Should toss
Elbow toss
Anything Otoshi waza

There are also more elaborate flying submissions that I would take a look at, assuming this competition is a little way off. They allow you to finish someone with a crappy ground game before you even take the fight to the ground. Here are my favorites:

Flying ankle lock (a la Ryo Chonan)
Flying kneebar
Back rolling armbar from the clinch
Flying guillotine choke
Legsweep into a kimura
Legsweep into a rear anklelock
Flying RNC as a counter to a double leg takedown (a la Frank Shamrock)

If you need anything explained, just let me know.
you got any videos of the elaborate techniques
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Old 01-04-2007, 11:13 PM   #14 (permalink)
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sorry to let you know, but according to my poll i took there is only 9 guys that train on this site.....
so any advice from here your kinda screwed
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Old 01-05-2007, 01:33 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Old 01-05-2007, 01:44 AM   #16 (permalink)
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sorry to let you know, but according to my poll i took there is only 9 guys that train on this site.....
so any advice from here your kinda screwed
But if you really put that into perspective... You only got 10 responses from 7 posters who claimed that they train or have trained before. That would not accurately reflect the forum as a whole, as a significant number of forum members didn't even respond. I'm don't think that discounts all the advice mrmyz is receiving.
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Old 01-05-2007, 01:48 AM   #17 (permalink)
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sorry to let you know, but according to my poll i took there is only 9 guys that train on this site.....
so any advice from here your kinda screwed
Because everyone on the forum read your poll and answered it, because the world revolves around you. Okay.

I'm sure he asked for advice just to disregard it.That makes sense, right?

Anyway, that was all in good fun.

myz, if your looking for tape then I suggest watching guys like Ryo Chonan (especially the Anderson Silva ankle lock) and watching video from Frank Shamrock and other guys who know their stuff.

At the moment I'm working on getting a hold on a video camera, but until then I am just working with posts.
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Old 01-05-2007, 05:31 AM   #18 (permalink)
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You guys all have excellent pointers and techniques but you know when you step into the ring or the cage or wutever, its all instinct and its all on the fighter, I hope you and your fighter best of luck, hope you guys train hard, if your buddy has good stamina, more the better to train for striking and ground game..personally i enjoy the thai clinche very much it has worked on more than a few opponents in my experience. Get him to work the thai clinche and make sure his forearms are against his opponents chest and you his opponents movement to sprawl, feed the knees to the face and side step him into a rib breaking knee to the ribs..

perfect example...

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sorry to let you know, but according to my poll i took there is only 9 guys that train on this site.....
so any advice from here your kinda screwed
yea according to the pull YOU! took....such a efficient pull...your a genius...you are one halarious character.....
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Old 01-05-2007, 06:01 AM   #20 (permalink)
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yea according to the pull YOU! took....such a efficient pull...your a genius...you are one halarious character.....
thank you for noticing my intelligence, but no matter how smart i am, i still wonder what this "pull" you keep referring to is.....

....what is a pull?
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