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Old 02-07-2007, 10:11 PM   #11 (permalink)
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for me it would have to be a straight arm lock because they can be applied from any position and they are the easiest moves to learn
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Old 02-08-2007, 12:53 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Which submission, in your opinion, is the most effective by ease (could someone off the street learn it?), strength (or lack needed), and speed (do any make them tapout quicker?)

Mine would be the RNC, very easy to learn, can be executed relatively quickly, and if you don't make them tap, they choke!
For me, this is how it looks:

Most effective by ease: Guillotine choke/Rear naked choke (let's face it, these require basically no technical ability)

Most effective lacking strength: In my personal repetoire, probably Nikkyo (frontal, direct wristlock), but Sankyo (twisting armlock) also works.

Fastest tapout: Really depends on what you're good at. I've noticed that people tap-out pretty quick from my heelhooks, but that might just be because I actually try to tear my opponents leg off. (unfortunately, I have yet to succeed)
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Old 02-23-2007, 03:51 PM   #13 (permalink)
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i gotta go with either the rnc or the guilotine. both easy to learn and end a fight fast.
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Old 02-23-2007, 05:07 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Im pretty good at gettin the armbar but the RNC is very effective for me as well.
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Old 02-23-2007, 07:47 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Id have to say Armbars ared ther most effective but just learning one would be stupid because there not always going to end up in the same spot but if you want to learn some learn armbar, kneebar and some other military holds on the arms, hands, legs or feet.


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Old 02-26-2007, 02:33 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Id say a RNC. Its nearly impossible to get out of if its in tight, anyone can learn it, and it makes the person black out. If you're fighting someone on PCP, breaking his arm won't nesecarily stop him, but a RNC definitely will. Guillotines are effective as well but its hard to tap someone unless you're in full guard, and you usually have to exert a lot of strength
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Old 02-26-2007, 02:57 AM   #17 (permalink)
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definately rear naked choke..its another form of a headlock..in a guillotine your less likely to be able to pull toward your chest. also, your opponent doesnt have as much strength to get out, like he does if you try a guillotine from your guard.
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Old 02-26-2007, 09:31 AM   #18 (permalink)
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I would say the guillotine is the easiest, but there are so many positions to work an armbar from so i think that is the most effective, for me anyway.
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Old 02-26-2007, 06:10 PM   #19 (permalink)
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hahaha never thought about that situation
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Old 02-26-2007, 06:24 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Arm triangle. Can be applied standing or down. If you do it standing, you can do lots of Judo throws from there, too.
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