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Old 02-26-2007, 06:26 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Old 02-26-2007, 06:56 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Guilotine is the easiest quikest and extremly efftive move. Also you can apply the guilotine from ALOT of positions, eg. Mount, closed guard, top and even if you're oppenent has no experience you could probably finish from side control.

Im gonna have to change my opinion, i think arm bar is the most effective when known how to do. It can be faster then alot of moves and very effective when done properly, you can also get it from about any position.
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Old 02-27-2007, 12:17 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Im gonna have to change my opinion, i think arm bar is the most effective when known how to do. It can be faster then alot of moves and very effective when done properly, you can also get it from about any position.
Yeah, armbar is a close second for me. In training, I like armbars the best. Plus, you can do an armbar from a lot of positions. Armbars are my favorite position, but I still think arm triangle is the most practicle in a street fight.
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Old 03-10-2007, 03:19 PM   #24 (permalink)
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This thread needs to be a little more focused. Are we talking about a move that someone off the street could learn to apply easily in a match or in a streetfight?

There would be a difference in my answer because in one scenario I'd be facing someone in an environment with rules who should know how to deal with submissions. The second situation would be NHB (no holds barred) and the opponent would probably be inexperienced in defending submissions.
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Old 03-11-2007, 01:21 PM   #25 (permalink)
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This thread needs to be a little more focused. Are we talking about a move that someone off the street could learn to apply easily in a match or in a streetfight?

There would be a difference in my answer because in one scenario I'd be facing someone in an environment with rules who should know how to deal with submissions. The second situation would be NHB (no holds barred) and the opponent would probably be inexperienced in defending submissions.
Think of it this way, If you had to teach one person one submission, which would you teach them? The armbar is easy when at mount, but if you're stuck in the guard, you have to pass, then hope you have enough energy left to pull it off.
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