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Most Effective Submission

Which submission, in your opinion, is the most effective by ease (could someone off the street learn it?), strength (or lack needed), and speed (do any make them tapout quicker?)

Mine would be the RNC, very easy to learn, can be executed relatively quickly, and if you don't make them tap, they choke!

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Which submission, in your opinion, is the most effective by ease (could someone off the street learn it?), strength (or lack needed), and speed (do any make them tapout quicker?)

Mine would be the RNC, very easy to learn, can be executed relatively quickly, and if you don't make them tap, they choke!
mine would be the chuck liddell kempo special, "eye-gouge".

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mine would be the chuck liddell kempo special, "eye-gouge".
Unfortunately, Tito didn't tap, but Chuck won anyways...

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kamora because in order to pull off a rnc u have to get to their back. this can be applied from a variety of positions. i am new to bjj and it seems to be the easiest one for me
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everytime i fight my friends, the RNC is the easiest for me

if i end up on my back, i can get up easy and they don't try anything...

I pulled an armbar once on one guy i know while i was past his "guard"

It takes very little strength and once you have hooks in, they aint going nowhere

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guillotine

im new to bjj too. Ive been doing it about a month and for me its been the guillotine choke that has worked best. Then again that could becasue i have a wrestling background before i started bjj and a guillotine is a basic wrestling front headlock without your opponents arm.
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im new to bjj too. Ive been doing it about a month and for me its been the guillotine choke that has worked best. Then again that could becasue i have a wrestling background before i started bjj and a guillotine is a basic wrestling front headlock without your opponents arm.
agreed the guilotine is real effective and easy to learn and with a little snap down to it, you can finish the fight without going to the ground....or lock them up in the guard if you need too. And it is actually a natural thing that people do sometimes even if they never had any training....but the guilotine is only really good from the guard or on the feet....so for the streets you would probably need a kimora, rnc, and armbar too
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the more experienced the guy the harder it is to finish this choke.
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i like blood chokes. They are the most effective because they work fast and you can apply them while standing up. I really dont like going to the ground on the street.

Standing arm bars are real good if you know how to use them.

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This depends alot on the person doing the submission and what they're used to. It also depends on the opponent and their level of flexibility.

Against a really flexible opponent sinking in an armlock or a leglock might be difficult, so chokes seem to work the best.

Personally, I'm a fan of kimuras, keylocks and straight armbars, because they're what I'm used to. It doesn't mean that is all I use, but it's what I use the most effectively.



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