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I dont' feel like the technique (butterfly sweep) is the problem, so much as my execution of it. I've had guys completely pillage my village with that move, even when I knew it was coming.

I don't know the helicopter/mayflower sweep. Could you show me a vid and/or describe it to me?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmgdB9M6pkA

Well my butterfly sweep execution is also horrible, but I find it rather easy to defend when somebody is doing it to me.

E: Dont bother to watch, just checked pendulum sweep and it's the same sweep. Why does the thing have so many freakin names??? (Pendulum sweep was new to me)

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Well my butterfly sweep execution is also horrible, but I find it rather easy to defend when somebody is doing it to me.

E: Dont bother to watch, just checked pendulum sweep and it's the same sweep. Why does the thing have so many freakin names??? (Pendulum sweep was new to me)
Lol that does have too many names. I just watched and I was like "wtf this is just a pendulum sweep."

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Lol that does have too many names. I just watched and I was like "wtf this is just a pendulum sweep."

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Thank you. And thank you for teaching me a new name to that sweep I have had problems with those names before. (Remember when my training partner called it the mayflower sweep for the first time )

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Thank you. And thank you for teaching me a new name to that sweep I have had problems with those names before. (Remember when my training partner called it the mayflower sweep for the first time )

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My girlfriend calls it the helicopter sweep and I always look at her funny. I've heard of flower, but NEVER of mayflower. What distniguishes a mayflower from any other type?

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I like the scissors sweep the best although I am better at the Kimura sweep.

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You're very kind, guys.

If I have a partner who's my size or smaller, I can use the elevator sweep OK, but it's a total fail if my partner is any bigger than me.


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Kimura sweep will work for me most of the time. I like to set it up with a head and arm sweep attempt if hes driving into me.
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I like the scissors sweep the best although I am better at the Kimura sweep.



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That's pretty clever. I was slow on that one.

I like scissor sweep since it's the first I learned, but I'm not nearly as good at it as I would like to be. I guess I don't load the guy up on my shins well enough, 'cause often times he'll scramble over when I go for it (which is my go-to defense, as well). I like it, though, when a guy will just try to base and stay in place, 'cause then you can go to a push sweep.

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You're very kind, guys.

If I have a partner who's my size or smaller, I can use the elevator sweep OK, but it's a total fail if my partner is any bigger than me.
Stephan Kesting had a good article about butterfly sweeps, which I think I'll post and study up on.

http://www.grapplearts.com/Butterfly-Guard-Sweeps.htm

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Kimura sweep will work for me most of the time. I like to set it up with a head and arm sweep attempt if hes driving into me.
Kimura sweep does appear to be the favorite here.

What's head and arm sweep? Is that like the quarter-nelson neck crank sweep or something else?

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