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xgarrettxvx 07-12-2010 02:37 PM

Legality of 10th planet moves
lately, i've been obsessing my sself with 10th planet techniques and loving it. However, i've been watching a lot of videos of them in competetion and seeing some of them ending up in DQs instead of wins after they get the tap. So, does anyone which techniques are illegal and why or if they are the same throughout different grappling orgs? thanks!

xeberus 07-13-2010 06:44 AM

I'm no expert but I think generally small joint manipulation is illegal to use in most tourneys.

xgarrettxvx 07-13-2010 01:15 PM

It is. 10thp doesn't use small joint manipulation. Apparently in some contests spine (the twister) and knee locks and illegal.

CFT_Ian 07-13-2010 01:19 PM

Well things like the Twister are neck cranks. A lot of tournaments don't allow neck cranks because they are kind of dangerous.

I might be a little rusty on my 10th planet but I don't see a whole lot of small joint stuff goin on.

Can you get a list of what technique was used when the fight ended in a DQ? Might help point out why it was a DQ. You would also have to get the rules for each Tourney, they vary from place to place.

Like the tourney's where I am dont allow: Neck cranks, Heel hooks, twisting leg locks at all, and only black belts are allowed to do: Calf/Bicep cutters, straight ankle locks and kneebars.

xgarrettxvx 07-14-2010 08:33 PM

you covered it. haha. 10th planet doesn't use small joint manipulation, seeing as how those are always illegal i believe. But the calf cranks and neck cranks are pretty much what caused teh DQs.

HexRei 07-14-2010 08:43 PM

Yeah, leg locks are sometimes illegal in grappling tourneys, and almost always at the lower levels of competition, because irreparable injury can occur so quickly.

elitemmagoer 08-21-2010 01:28 PM

I have always found it strange that a Twister or as everyone on my wrestling team calls it the guillotine, is illegal. it is a painful neck crank but i have never seen it called potentially dangerous in a match, yet in bjj it is illegal.

HexRei 08-21-2010 01:58 PM

A twister is not a guillotine it is a neck crank/spine lock. if it were simply a guillotine choke it would be legal.

Halfraq9 08-23-2010 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by HexRei (Post 1249374)
A twister is not a guillotine it is a neck crank/spine lock. if it were simply a guillotine choke it would be legal.

elitemmagoer is right, a wrestlers guillotine is another name for a twister..

Its a low percentage move but I manage to pull it off once in awhile.

HexRei 08-23-2010 06:21 PM

huh, i only did part of 1 season of HS wrestling and never trained that move. and the twister is a very distinctly different technique from the guillotine we train in bjj.

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