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post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old 10-13-2010, 08:35 AM Thread Starter
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Hey guys, I have been in Jiu Jitsu for the last about 2 months now, so I do have some experience with martial arts. I have been doing muay thai kickboxing for about 3 months.
I am starting wrestling for my first time this year for my high-school. I'm going into the 152's, and I am about 8 percent body fat (if that even matters to you guys, just saying that so there won't be any questions) and benching the second highest in my weight division.

In order to be a successful wrestler, other than not getting stuck on my back, what are some good techniques or moves that I should probably know?
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No disrespect intended but your question is very vague. Its like asking what do I do in a boxing match other than not getting knocked out. The answer is everything. That being said I'll try and give you a place to start.

1) Focus on technique, not strength. What I mean is; watch and look for leverage and balance points. Where are your opponents posts? Are you overbalanced or too high?

2) Work on being in control. Control your opponent's, (and your) position and posture. This takes time to learn. Start with controlling their head and hips. Expand from there.

3) Learn single and double leg takedowns. Again, this will take alot of time and practice.

4) Learn takedown defense. Underhooks and crossfaces are your friend.

5) When you get some of the basics down, ask someone to show you leg riding techniques.

6) Cardio is more important than strength.

Since you're just starting, expect to get owned for awhile. Try not to get frustrated but lose the ego and learn. Ask alot of questions.

Good luck and have fun.
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No disrespect intended but your question is very vague. Its like asking what do I do in a boxing match other than not getting knocked out. The answer is everything. That being said I'll try and give you a place to start.

1) Focus on technique, not strength. What I mean is; watch and look for leverage and balance points. Where are your opponents posts? Are you overbalanced or too high?

2) Work on being in control. Control your opponent's, (and your) position and posture. This takes time to learn. Start with controlling their head and hips. Expand from there.

3) Learn single and double leg takedowns. Again, this will take alot of time and practice.

4) Learn takedown defense. Underhooks and crossfaces are your friend.

5) When you get some of the basics down, ask someone to show you leg riding techniques.

6) Cardio is more important than strength.

Since you're just starting, expect to get owned for awhile. Try not to get frustrated but lose the ego and learn. Ask alot of questions.

Good luck and have fun.
I a lot of great stuff here. But there is a small area I want to expand on.

Developing strength is very important. However, as he said, technique is far more important. Think of it as, you have better technique, relative strength you win. You have better technique, lesser strength, you win. However, if you have equal technique, but don't have any strength, you very well may lose.

That being said, lifting huge amounts of weight really wouldn't be helpful for someone around your size, in your weight class. You want strength, but you don't want to get too big, because then you'd defeat the purpose of the technique if you were too slow to apply it.

I would recommend adding some body weight training to supplement whatever you happened to be doing in wrestling. I expect some BW, lots of cardio and free weight lifting maybe?

BW workouts that come to mind are:
Pull ups. These are the very best workout for developing strength in the back muscles without necessarily building size, they add density to the muscle fibers, adding minimal weight and making the muscles themselves stronger.

Traditional Pushups. The strength benefits to the chest/arms is pretty obvious with these one's they're a staple of jut about all physical fitness routines.

Wall Pushups. These are done by planting the feet on the wall behind and walking up said wall until the hands are planted about 12-18 inches away from the wall with your stomach pointed towards it. Think of it like doing a handstand only leaning against a wall. These are similar in nature to regular pushups, except they apply more weight to the musles being worked, as well as bringing the shoulder/trap muscles more into the equation than a traditional pushup.

All in all, cardio and technique are the most important aspects, but some free weights as well as body weight conditioning can give you a leg up on those others who recognize the importance of technique and wind!



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Thanks to both of you, I have a new perspective on how I should be training for this. I expected to lose some strength as I do cardio more, and I have been doing a lot of body weight conditioning and doing a lot of pulling/pushing types of workouts. I do a lot of free weights too. I will get my coach to help me with technique and I will work on the takedowns. Thanks guys. +Rep to both.
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Thanks to both of you, I have a new perspective on how I should be training for this. I expected to lose some strength as I do cardio more, and I have been doing a lot of body weight conditioning and doing a lot of pulling/pushing types of workouts. I do a lot of free weights too. I will get my coach to help me with technique and I will work on the takedowns. Thanks guys. +Rep to both.
Thanks for the rep (gave some in return). Good luck and have fun man!



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Jiu jitsu is pretty similar to wrestling. Except in wrestling,
you can't do any submissions(Pins) on your back.
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post #7 of 7 (permalink) Old 11-17-2010, 10:20 AM
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okay bud I know where you coming from, i went from wrestling to judo, This are the basic you need to know in wrestling as bluntly as possible. you need to stay lower than you oppenent, your shot has to be fast and very very good technique. Work on you big moves LAST big moves like head locks and arm throws wont work on good wrestlers in the first round. Uses move that fit you size and tech. if your as strong as you think you are use a double leg or force double. if your fast use a sweep single. to get some good flim check out www.flowwrestling.com
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