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Both. Try not to restrict yourself to just one. Both are excellent.
Personally I never trained too much in Judo. I did train with Neil Adams a couple of times but thats about it.
I started off in Sambo which is similar. imo its a bit of a mix between Judo and Wrestling.
Every system, style and martial art has its place and you can take something from almost any of them.

Even Kendo! :O

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Its almost as if I like to be tapped out! lol
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I think it depends on having a Gi or not, I would give the TD's to judo with the Gi, but obviously wrestling without.


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Both. Try not to restrict yourself to just one. Both are excellent.
Personally I never trained too much in Judo. I did train with Neil Adams a couple of times but thats about it.
I started off in Sambo which is similar. imo its a bit of a mix between Judo and Wrestling.
Every system, style and martial art has its place and you can take something from almost any of them.

Even Kendo! :O

I would love to run into the cage with a massive stick one day.
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Haha, wasn't expecting that.
Im sure there is an MMA for weapons.

Its almost as if I like to be tapped out! lol
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i think that freestyle wrestling focusses more on body positions and stuff and would help u wayyy more in mma. i think judo is garbage. just my opinion. but i am a wrestler. and do bjj and muay thai. never wrestled or fought a judo guy.
The only advantage Judo offers is that it catches some freestye guys off guard, primarily with leg sweep takedwons. Look at GSP - he uses Judo to throw around some pretty bad ass wrestlers because he uses leg sweeps - watch GSP vs. Hughes, GSP vs. Koshchek.
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There is some good advice in here, so I'm not going to discount all of it. I tend to be fairly neutral about which one of these is better for MMA.

As far as I'm concerned, it all depends on how you like to fight.

If you would rather be working in the clinch, I strongly recommend learning judo. Freestyle wrestling can be very helpful with respect to the clinch game, but I cannot help but feel that the focus is largely on the ability to control the legs. This is also a problem that I've had with a lot of the training for folkstyle wrestling that I've done. I prefer the clinch, personally, so I find that a background in Greco-Roman wrestling and judo is really the best approach to developing that game.

I do know a lot of guys who like to focus on grabbing that single or double, and those guys often do a lot of supplementary training with freestyle wrestling. It definitely helps, especially when it comes to working around the sprawl.

From what I've heard of your game, from your post, I strongly recommend judo. If you have a boxing background, and you're going to be looking to stand most of the time, developing your shots probably isn't going to be that helpful. A lot of boxers really struggle with the clinch, also, because the clinch in MMA is so much more active than the clinch in boxing in terms of striking and in terms of the amount of angling for position.

That said, both are really important, so learning as much of you can from different styles is a good option.

I'm getting to a point in my own training where I'm starting to realize that when someone asks me "should I choose legitimate martial art style A or legitimate martial art style B?" the answer is always "Yes."



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If your stand up is really good and you want to keep the fight on your feet as much as possible, pick Judo.

Yes Im a Judo guy but in my experience you learn a lot of dodging while practicing, making sure you dont get taken down, and you can preform quick, but devastating takedowns from the clinch, like hip or shoulder throws, which can drop enenmies from almost the height of your own body. Wrestling however, is great if your fight non-clinchers and want to get them down. I feel Judo provides more offence and defence in the clinch, and on your back. While wrestling provides those takedowns which dont require your enemy to come close.

It really depends on what you want to achieve. If your good at stand up and feel you can take anyone on on your feet, pick Judo.

If you want to take initiative in your takedowns more rather than using takedowns to counter the clinch, pick Wrestling.
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If your stand up is really good and you want to keep the fight on your feet as much as possible, pick Judo.

Yes Im a Judo guy but in my experience you learn a lot of dodging while practicing, making sure you dont get taken down, and you can preform quick, but devastating takedowns from the clinch, like hip or shoulder throws, which can drop enenmies from almost the height of your own body. Wrestling however, is great if your fight non-clinchers and want to get them down. I feel Judo provides more offence and defence in the clinch, and on your back. While wrestling provides those takedowns which dont require your enemy to come close.

It really depends on what you want to achieve. If your good at stand up and feel you can take anyone on on your feet, pick Judo.

If you want to take initiative in your takedowns more rather than using takedowns to counter the clinch, pick Wrestling.
I have to dissagree a little here.
I came from a wrestling and sambo background.
I wrestle from the clinch and always have. I rarely shoot for the takedown. I use the clinch to drag, push, pull my opponents into a possition where I can attack the leg.
I also use hip throws and trips a lot too and love using the firemans carry. All of them come from the clinch for me.
The main reason I dont shoot is because I am tall for my weight class so I have further to go down.
Personally I love both Judo and Wrestling. IMO no one style can beat another. It all depends on how good you are at your respective style and in which situations you use the right technique.

Its almost as if I like to be tapped out! lol
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I think it depends on having a Gi or not, I would give the TD's to judo with the Gi, but obviously wrestling without.
To explain my point here in more detail the perfect example is when you look at Sambo and MMA and what is actually working in each sport, my point about the Gi is proven by the following facts, in MMA wrestling is the force that is running the show, Judo experts coming into the sport are not having the same success as wrestlers.

Then look at Sambo, for the benefit of those who don't know, and I by all means don't claim to be an expert in the sport of Sambo but I have experienced it a little first hand from a Latvian friend of mine who has showed me a few basics, basically Sambo is MMA with a Gi, and in Sambo Judo is the dominant force, most successful Sambo competitors are like Fedor also Judo black belts, so to compete in Sambo a Judo background over a wrestling background is more of an advantage.


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