Originally Posted by Alfromsleep
Having tried both JJJ and BJJ I have to say that I prefer BJJ by a mile due to the more physical aspects of the training. Whilst JJJ does have a lot of effective moves, the training methods I encountered always invloved training with a passive opponent - The total opposite to 'alive' BJJ training we do at SBG Aberdeen. Also, at the JJJ class I attended, there was no sparring allowed 'due to the destructive nature of the moves' which is bullshit as long as everyone who trains uses common sense when doing submissions.
In actuality that isn't a new practice by any stretch. In fact, the one thing that made Kano's approach to training so "revolutionary" at the time was that he encourage randori
saying that it was vital for the mastery of the art. Even then, there are techniques that are taught but not allowed in randori or competition like the Dakiage
(high hip lift/powerbombing an opponent in gaurd), or Kawazugake
(single-leg entanglement throw/russian leg-sweep). BJJ does the same with a large variety of Neck Cranks, Heel Hooks, and Compression locks like bicep and calf slicers.
However, if the teacher of the art is willing to make an effort to begin applying techniques in a live setting they would probably be able to figure which JJJ can be used regularly in randori. Obviously a lot of wristlocks, fingerlocks (a favorite of mine), eye-gouges and groin attacks wouldn't be readily available for normal sparring, but you would still be better off with that over nothing. It really is symptomatic of the training method over anything specific to the actual style.
Originally Posted by Trainee
But yeah, JJJ is good for real life use, but I wouldn't really recommend it only because most JJ schools don't have live-sparring - which BJJ schools do. I mean, BJJ isn't ideal for self-defense, but when are you ever going to use "advanced grappling" in a street fight. It's not like BJJ/JJJ masters run around mugging people. Lol.
Exactly... Most schools do not. It would be the same thing if you went to a "Cardio Kick Boxing" place over a full blown Kick Boxing or MT gym. All the more reason to be picky with the places you choose to train at.