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Indestructibl3 12-13-2010 11:19 PM

Marcelo Garcia rolling with Ben Askren
 
Watch the master at work. Doesn't even look like he breaks a sweat and Askren is definitely no joke. That choke at the end is epic.


IronMan 12-18-2010 02:33 AM

This video's been floating around for a while. I have to admit, I was really impressed with Askren, and happy to see him training with Marcelinho, the first time I watched it.

Rewatching it, though, makes me think about how far Askren is from really being in the position of being a top grappler in the world. He's a young guy and has a long way to go, but that seems to me to be exactly the point: he has a long way to go.

Marcelinho's guillotines are the bomb, though. I've been working on them for the last few months and I continue to learn things every time I watch him. He's just unbelievable.

Indestructibl3 12-20-2010 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by IronMan (Post 1323480)
This video's been floating around for a while. I have to admit, I was really impressed with Askren, and happy to see him training with Marcelinho, the first time I watched it.

Rewatching it, though, makes me think about how far Askren is from really being in the position of being a top grappler in the world. He's a young guy and has a long way to go, but that seems to me to be exactly the point: he has a long way to go.

Marcelinho's guillotines are the bomb, though. I've been working on them for the last few months and I continue to learn things every time I watch him. He's just unbelievable.

Yeah me too man, I mean the guy was at the Beijing Olympics in '08 and wasn't doing much (if any?) JJ at the time, and now 2 years later he's already a purple belt and training with Garcia.

Having said that, there is no one in the WW division - whether it be where he's at now Bellator, Strikeforce or even the UFC with a JJ game anywhere near Garcia's, so he should be okay for now. Although he is susceptible to submissions from inside the guard as we saw in the Lyman Good fight with that triangle. I think Askren's gonna be an absolute beast if he continues rolling with the best guys and picks his striking up a bit - really looking forward to seeing his game progress.

Good stuff man, I've definitely seen an improvement in my game from just watching him roll and trying to implement some of his moves when in my game. Like, right now I've got this obsession with taking the back and focusing on locking an arm with my foot, then trying to finish the choke.

IronMan 12-20-2010 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Indestructibl3 (Post 1324621)
Yeah me too man, I mean the guy was at the Beijing Olympics in '08 and wasn't doing much (if any?) JJ at the time, and now 2 years later he's already a purple belt and training with Garcia.

Having said that, there is no one in the WW division - whether it be where he's at now Bellator, Strikeforce or even the UFC with a JJ game anywhere near Garcia's, so he should be okay for now. Although he is susceptible to submissions from inside the guard as we saw in the Lyman Good fight with that triangle. I think Askren's gonna be an absolute beast if he continues rolling with the best guys and picks his striking up a bit - really looking forward to seeing his game progress.

Good stuff man, I've definitely seen an improvement in my game from just watching him roll and trying to implement some of his moves when in my game. Like, right now I've got this obsession with taking the back and focusing on locking an arm with my foot, then trying to finish the choke.

There's basically no one in the welterweight division in any sport (except, of course, Pablo Popovitch) that has a game close to Garcia's. He's a warrior, and a genius.

Indestructibl3 12-21-2010 12:13 AM

Good point lol.


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