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kishiro 02-12-2007 10:07 PM

Judo vs. BJJ In The MMA World
 
i know most judo guys are very humble, and the real dream is the gold of the olympics.
in the start bjj ran it, but today the top of the mma world seems to be taken by judo guys.
what do you think about this????

jtsblacksrt4 02-12-2007 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kishiro
i know most judo guys are very humble, and the real dream is the gold of the olympics.
in the start bjj ran it, but today the top of the mma world seems to be taken by judo guys.
what do you think about this????

The top guys in mma are judo? I'm confused here, I only know of Karo as far as judo guys go.

kishiro 02-13-2007 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by jtsblacksrt4
The top guys in mma are judo? I'm confused here, I only know of Karo as far as judo guys go.

yes you are confused, but the mma world is a bit bigger than ufc....

maxtheripper 02-13-2007 05:18 AM

im guessing your talking bout fedor .there are a few judo guys but i dont think its fair to say bjj>judo they both have there strenghts and weaknesses .a bit of training in both is good because they complement each other well:thumbsup:

Zapatista 02-13-2007 08:24 PM

The one thing that Judoka (those who practice Judo) have (other than a different view of the clinch) is that in a Judo match once somebody is thrown, the two Judoka have a very limited amount of time to lock in a submission before the ref stands the two up. Apply that to MMA and once they get somebody on the ground, they have explosiveness that can get a submission.

Of course, in the MMA world, I don't think that anybody trains in only Judo without at least a little BJJ. The reason behind this is that (to my knowledge) you're not on your back at all, and in MMA you're on your back a lot and if you just trained in Judo you'd be screwed.

It's very hard to survive in MMA doing just 1 grappling art (whether it be Judo, BJJ, Sambo, Wrestling, etc.) because not all of the arts have every situation, that's why Submission Wrestling is a good choice for the wanna-be MMA fighter.

herton17 02-14-2007 05:05 PM

Watch the Nakamura Nogueira fights.

Foon 02-14-2007 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BJJ Boy
Id go with bjj, even though judo has agresive throws, ounce a bjj'er is taken to ground it will be hard to beat a bjj'er

That's coming from a guy who has BJJ in his name.

Cross-train in both, that's the real deal. The theory of Judo vs. BJJ is bullshit and the whole ''Judoka gets taken down he loses'', ''Judoka keeps the fight standing he wins'' it's all a bunch of rubbish. Like somebody above said, all styles have high and low points, the best option is too cross-train.

BJJ Boy 02-14-2007 07:30 PM

Man, i have nothiong against judo, but the reason my name iss bjj boy instead of judo boy, is because i perfer bjj,go to youtube and type bjj vs judo, youll see bjj wins most of the time. Both are very good martial arts, i just think bjj is better.

Spartan42 02-14-2007 07:55 PM

Ive beem training BJJ and just recently started doing some judo as well and I have to say they compliment eachother very well. So i would argue that neither is superior but the combo of the two is better than either alone and in my opinion better than wrestling as well, but I have almost no training in wrestling so i cant really say.

IronMan 02-14-2007 07:59 PM

If you want to ask the question of which is better as a pure style, I don't think either is really available in MMA anymore. The only fighters that are even arguable as pure BJJ are the Nogueira brothers and the only pure Judo guy I can think of off the top of my head is Kazuhiro Nakamura, and he is arguable as well.

MMA is mixed martial arts and so no one really trains in just one style anymore, but if you were asking which is better from the standpoint of an MMA fighter, let me break it down for you.

Big name fighters who study Judo (not necessarily as there primary style):

Fedor Emelianenko and Aleksander Emelianenko (it's really a staple for alot of Red Devil fighters, but it is where their takedown game is)
Kazuhiro Nakamura (probably one of the purest guys in the game)
Karo Parysian (obviously)

Big name fighters who swear by BJJ:
Antonio Rodrigo and Rogerio Nogueira (probably pure BJJ, and both great fighters in their weight classes)
Dean Lister (not purely BJJ, but probably the most notable non-MMA grappler in the world)
GSP (it is his primary form of grappling, though he is not a master in alot of opinions)

Honestly, I won't take one style over the other, the both have their strengths and they both have their problems. I, personally, study Judo, but I have trained in BJJ and have alot of respect for the guys who study it.

In my opinion, Judo is the more well-rounded style, but that is just my opinion.


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