I am a beginner level BJJ student, I just started my first class tonight and it was fun but pretty tiring. I was recently talking to a friend and he said that the fatigue he recieves from sparring in kickboxing (or chinese kickboxing, clinches/throwing) is far greater than the sparring in BJJ.
As a less experienced martial artist, is he correct in this or totally bias and one sided to the kickboxing aspect?
boxing(i can't use mt as an example, never done it) & bjj are both tiring, but in diffrent ways. i found judo makes me just as tired as both of these arts but brings the pain, due to me getting slammed for 2hrs straight.
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To me bjj is more tiring only because the guys I train with are much bigger than me and I have to work harder, then again I am constantly grappling only to take a few breaks in between to get water when I only go three minutes a round while boxing with 30 sec rest in between rounds
I don't think it's the sparring that gets him tired. I mean, grappling is more tiring than stand up fighting.
I think it's because he probably has to hit the bags and keep kicking/punching these bags for minutes at a time without breaks. That gets anyone tired fast. So his kickboxing class is probably more tiring, not the sparring.
Dunno, ask him, lol.
There is generally more cardio activity involved in kickboxing at the beginner level, but once you get up to a more advanced level, I think that grappling is much more tiring.
As a kickboxer, you start off working on building up cardio and striking ability, then you refine the technical aspects. As you get to be more technical as a striker, you use less energy when you spar. This makes kickboxing easier as you get to a higher level.
With grappling, espcially with takedowns, you start with working on technique and alot of beginners take a lot of time to rest when they are sparring. They get into a position and then they lock down so that they can recover and then they make the next more. Once you get up to a higher level in grappling that doesn't happen any more.
I am a grappler, so I am biased, but I have also trained in boxing. The difference between the physical exertion of a beginning boxer and an advanced boxer is usually pretty similar. If anything, the advanced boxer exerts himself less because he has better form.
In grappling, form is just a way of making your explosiveness more efficient. So an advanced level grappler continues to be explosive, and usually builds on that explosiveness as they train by working physical conditioning into form as well.
Another thing to take into consideration is the resistance factor. When a boxer strikers, generally he has the restistance of his glove + the resistance of air + the resistance of whatever part of his opponents body he ends up striking. That last part might seem like alot, but generally it's not as much as a grappler, who has to exert himself against the full body weight of an opponent for long periods of time. (sometimes actually having to life that weight in the takedown)
Depends how hard each person works during that session if your just starting and doing the basic"easier" stuff and he sits there and hits some punching and speed balls well kb is morte tiring but if it was full out with pshyical training it wouldnt matter which is more tiring all you would know is that your both half dead.