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Old 03-14-2007, 10:26 AM   #11 (permalink)
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stupid move with onlya week before a tournament
True, but it would have been even stupider in a match where the other guy is seriously trying to maim you. I know that if I had an opponent do something crazy and experimental that he had clearly never tried before in a competition, I would make him pay for it.

If you think you can get it, keep working on it, but on the street and in the competitions stick to what you know works. That's all I'm saying.
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Old 03-14-2007, 08:43 PM   #12 (permalink)
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True, but it would have been even stupider in a match where the other guy is seriously trying to maim you. I know that if I had an opponent do something crazy and experimental that he had clearly never tried before in a competition, I would make him pay for it.

If you think you can get it, keep working on it, but on the street and in the competitions stick to what you know works. That's all I'm saying.
i agree, i was laughing it up the whole time until i landed, on the second thought i am not sure if i will beable to stick it, because there is too much going on at once, i will never be able to get it if he still has his grips.
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Old 03-14-2007, 11:23 PM   #13 (permalink)
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i agree, i was laughing it up the whole time until i landed, on the second thought i am not sure if i will beable to stick it, because there is too much going on at once, i will never be able to get it if he still has his grips.
Yeah, this is another thing in grappling. You get to have fun and chill and talk, but one thing I have learned is that when you are doing a technique or trying to do something new, focus. If you let yourself get distracted, then something is much more likely to go wrong.

As far as the grip breaking, if that is what you need there are ways to force that in no-gi grappling. In gi grappling, if he grabs a sleeve or a lapel he is not going to let go unless he is duly motivated. There are ways of doing that.

Exactly what are you trying to do?
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Old 03-15-2007, 01:21 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Yeah, this is another thing in grappling. You get to have fun and chill and talk, but one thing I have learned is that when you are doing a technique or trying to do something new, focus. If you let yourself get distracted, then something is much more likely to go wrong.

As far as the grip breaking, if that is what you need there are ways to force that in no-gi grappling. In gi grappling, if he grabs a sleeve or a lapel he is not going to let go unless he is duly motivated. There are ways of doing that.

Exactly what are you trying to do?
i threw myself (when being thrown) with an ippon seoinage, as hard as i could, trying to land on my feet so they get no points, and i be on my feet to make space and counter.
without thinking this one all the way through i threw myself with the throw as planned, i landed on my feet, but the force of the throw was too great, i landed in the bridge position, it sent a shock in my foot & my leg gave under the weight of two of us in this position, spraining my ankle and i ended up in a hurdlers like position.
i was forced to land in that position because of his grips. can't pull this move off with his still having his grips.

what was i going for??? i really am not sure, i guess some "hidden dragon" move or something....
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Old 03-15-2007, 09:59 AM   #15 (permalink)
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what was i going for??? i really am not sure, i guess some "hidden dragon" move or something....
Here's a problem. If you don't know where your going, it's usually pretty hard to get there.

Sometimes it's better to give up a few points and look for a solid counter that is more likely to work. Not that a "hidden dragon" move isn't good and fun to watch, but sometimes its more practical to just take the fall and look for the counter next or (if your really intent on a shut-out) stay on center and keep control of him. (that's never as easy as it sounds)

Sounds like it might be okay to give up on this one, though.
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Old 03-15-2007, 02:22 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Tap112 has a little shameless behaviour in the past
If I think of something really crazy, I'll try it as slow as possible at first, and when we are drilling.

not to spam, but this thread reminded me of this video:
YouTube - Backflip to Low Single

Im so tempted to try that but I know Ill probably just land on my head haha.
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Old 03-15-2007, 08:01 PM   #17 (permalink)
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If I think of something really crazy, I'll try it as slow as possible at first, and when we are drilling.

not to spam, but this thread reminded me of this video:
YouTube - Backflip to Low Single

Im so tempted to try that but I know Ill probably just land on my head haha.
NICE MOVE!!!! that is what i am talking about. a move that you really can't do every time, but when pulled off it is the most impressive thing to be seen.
you must take risk sometimes. my situation i thought it was my time, sometimes things don't workout as planed.. unless your name is kyuzo mifune.

some guys here sound like they too had never had a point scored on them, or never made a mistake, or never got injured.
the reason i go is to learn, the most knowledgeable can learn from a guys first time ever on the mat. i belive it is better to try and fail than to not have tried at all
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Old 03-15-2007, 11:05 PM   #18 (permalink)
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It's definitely better to f*ck up trying something new and innovative. Sometimes it's fun. I'm just saying that the place for that is training, not in competition and definitely not on the street.

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So you basicly try to land on youre feet instead of youre back and when you hit the ground youre feet were under you re ass? Ouch, that must have hurt. Does it still hurt?
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Old 03-16-2007, 12:18 PM   #20 (permalink)
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So you basicly try to land on youre feet instead of youre back and when you hit the ground youre feet were under you re ass? Ouch, that must have hurt. Does it still hurt?
yes it hurt, it still hurts, i am scared to put any real pressure to it
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