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Old 05-13-2008, 12:27 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Sylvia vs Fedor is a very interesting main event.
But is it?

I'm very happy to see the fight because Fedor is gonna lay the woopin on Tim and prove that he is the best fighter in the world. But tbh, I don't think this makes for an interesting fight, Fedor has fought tall striker before (Hong Man, Semmy Schilt) and also better strikers like Mark Hunt and Cro Cop at his best. They all got to the ground, this fight will go to the ground where Tim has nothing on Fedor, NOTHING. I'm predicting a first round submission, maybe 2nd if this has 5 minute rounds.

The interesting fights to me are the ones where we have questions, like the Hendo Silva fight, everyone wanted to know would Hendo stick to a gameplan involving wrestling, would he brawl? What could Anderson do on the floor if Hendo got him there? Wanderlei and Chuck, everyone wanted to know who would win the striking war. Sherk and Penn, how is Penns cardio gonna be against the cardio freak. If Sherk takes him down can he do enough to win? Does Penn have to win in the early rounds??

In this fight, there are no questions that I need answering..

Will Fedor be able to get Tim down??? YES, everyone goes on about Tim having a good sprawl, Fedor doesn't shoot so that means nothing. Fedor will probably burst in with punches and throw Sylvia to the floor.

Can Tim survive on the floor against the greatest ground fighter in MMA? NO.

Will Tim jab him to a decision?? NO, Fedor would never let someone do that. Tim's striking just won't be effective against Fedor.

This will be a HUGE upset if Tim manages to win, and there is only one way, a 1 in 100 KO blow. I'm actually pretty confident that Fedor would win a K-1 fight between the two. Fedor is better than Tim in all aspects.

bbjd, I didn't mean to make this sound like I want an arguement, I just saw you say it was an interesting fight so thought i'd give my view.
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Old 05-13-2008, 12:55 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Well I think you are crazy to be honest man. Tim is way better than you are giving him credit for. He showed that his guard isn't terrible when he faced Monson and he's so long that will defiantly give Fedor problems. Also While Fedor beat Choi and Schlit neither of them are half the MMA fighter that Sylvia is and while they are better K-1 than Sylvia in K-1 style stand up in MMA Sylvia is better standing than both of them.

Sylvia has a crazy reach advantage in this fight that could give Fedor a lot of problems.

This fight is a very tough one for Fedor since he's never faced a fighter who can work off his jab like Sylvia does.

Also while Fedor is more techinically sound striking wise he's much smaller and while Fedor fans are confident in his strength advantage in the clinch I'm not so sure Sylvia won't just pin him against the ropes. Now that the fight is in a ring I'm going to pick Fedor but if it was in a cage I was planning on picking Sylvia because the guy has a very legit shot at winning this fight by working off his jab and keeping Fedor at a distance.
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Old 05-13-2008, 01:26 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Well I think you are crazy to be honest man. Tim is way better than you are giving him credit for. He showed that his guard isn't terrible when he faced Monson and he's so long that will defiantly give Fedor problems. Also While Fedor beat Choi and Schlit neither of them are half the MMA fighter that Sylvia is and while they are better K-1 than Sylvia in K-1 style stand up in MMA Sylvia is better standing than both of them.

Sylvia has a crazy reach advantage in this fight that could give Fedor a lot of problems.

This fight is a very tough one for Fedor since he's never faced a fighter who can work off his jab like Sylvia does.

Also while Fedor is more techinically sound striking wise he's much smaller and while Fedor fans are confident in his strength advantage in the clinch I'm not so sure Sylvia won't just pin him against the ropes. Now that the fight is in a ring I'm going to pick Fedor but if it was in a cage I was planning on picking Sylvia because the guy has a very legit shot at winning this fight by working off his jab and keeping Fedor at a distance.
Tim's striking is better than Semmy's? Says who? The only thing Tim has better is his TDD, that's it. This fight is going to the ground for sure, and once he is there it's over, you say he showed a good guard against Monson, well Monson is not on Fedor's level, as Nog showed in his their fight, as soon as the fight went to the ground, it took 2 minutes for Nog to finish it. It's going to be the same this time.
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Old 05-13-2008, 01:31 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Tim's MMA striking is. Semmy has been owned by a lot of people in MMA becuase his TDD is bad and he has to worry abut it to much so he can't KO people striking as easily. Sylvia has a better MMA record than Semmy evne though he doesn't have submission or GnP that would lead me to say his MMA striking is better.

Monson submission wise isn't much different than Fedor. And Fedor is different than Nog since he is smaller and with Sylvia size it will give Fedor trouble.
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Old 05-13-2008, 01:42 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I agree with bbjd here. I see Tim giving Fedor problems.

Fedor beat Semmy and Choi, but let's be honest here, they have nothing really MMA wise to offer. Tim does.

Tim has very good Sub defense, whether you want to believe it or not and his striking is very technical. He has a solid chin and has tons of stamina. He lost to a Sambo guy and learned his lesson. I really think that Tim will be training like the old Timmy for this fight and you're going to see him come out there and try to shock the world.

If there's one thing that Tim has shown, when he's in there to win and not just lose, he can fight with the best of the best and NO ONE walks through him.
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Old 05-13-2008, 01:56 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Tim's MMA striking is. Semmy has been owned by a lot of people in MMA becuase his TDD is bad and he has to worry abut it to much so he can't KO people striking as easily. Sylvia has a better MMA record than Semmy evne though he doesn't have submission or GnP that would lead me to say his MMA striking is better.

Monson submission wise isn't much different than Fedor. And Fedor is different than Nog since he is smaller and with Sylvia size it will give Fedor trouble.
Well, the problem is Sylvia's TDD against Fedor sucks too, his TDD is only good against shoots, not against throws, which is where Fedor excels. As soon as Fedor gets in the inside Sylvia is going to the ground.

Monson is not as big or explosive as Fedor (Fedor isn't much bigger but he is still bigger than Monson), he is not going to avoid Fedor's submissions (or G&P if Fedor's decides to go for the TKO).
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Fedor is the fastest and most explosive heavyweight Sylvia's ever faced, Sylvia is not winning this.

While Rothwell is without a doubt a great heavyweight, the only reason I see for him being in the top 10 is because the heavyweight division is not evry active.
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Where did this rumor Sylvia can't defend against throws come from. I'm not sure if I can ever remeber him being thrown and I remember him being tripped to the ground once against Vera in a fight that was in the clinch the whole time.


Also Monson is much bigger weight wise than Fedor a good 20 pounds heavier.
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Fedor is the fastest and most explosive heavyweight Sylvia's ever faced, Sylvia is not winning this.

While Rothwell is without a doubt a great heavyweight, the only reason I see for him being in the top 10 is because the heavyweight division is not evry active.
Well, who knows, if he manages to beat Arlovski he's definitely top 10, though I doubt he will, plus it would suck for me because I want to see Arlovski fight Fedor.

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Where did this rumor Sylvia can't defend against throws come from. I'm not sure if I can ever remeber him being thrown and I remember him being tripped to the ground once against Vera in a fight that was in the clinch the whole time.


Also Monson is much bigger weight wise than Fedor a good 20 pounds heavier.
Couture fight.

I was refering to height, which is what gave Monson problems, he was so short that he couldn't reach Sylvia's head to strike.

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He needed back surgery before the Couture fight and could barely move during it. Basing anything on that fight IMO is unfair since Sylvia had no movement at all in that fiht.
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