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Old 02-24-2009, 06:01 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I'm a Marcelinho nuthugger. At least, if I hug any nuts, they're his. But that's just because I think he's the best pound-for-pound grappler of all time.

If he steps in the GP, Aoki better pray that he does draw Marcelo early. I have a feeling they'll put them at opposite ends, but if they do end up fighting early, that'd suck for Shinya.

Shinkya wins because no body can grapple like him. Unfortunately, Marcelo's way, way better on the mat. Turning a fight into a pure grappling match works great when Shinya is fighting MMA fighters, but against the greatest pure grappler in the lightweight division, it's not going to be a good idea.

The only way Marcelo will lose is if he struggles with the striking or with the gloves (like he did in his K-1 fight). If everything we're hearing is true, and Marcelinho has figured out how to choke with the gloves on, then the world should be very, very afraid.
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Old 02-24-2009, 06:05 PM   #22 (permalink)
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If it becomes a grappling match Aoki will lose. However, it will be very hard for Marcelo to do a lot of things that allow him to win in grappling matches.
Marcelo won't be able to use X-guard or he will get kicked in the head.
At this moment I give the fight to Aoki, but that is also depending on how far along Marcelo's striking is.
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Old 02-25-2009, 12:18 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Marcelo gets the sub.

Damn nice, how long ago was that?

This guy needs to start training BJJ again:


not only once but twice:
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Old 02-25-2009, 12:21 AM   #24 (permalink)
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It was 2005 Marcelo is basically the greatest P4P grappler ever so yeah honestly Aoki would be screwed.
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Your right he probably does it quicker now.

Marcelo is supposedly unstoppable at this point because he has added the guillotine to his submission game.
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Lol what? Garcia has always used the guillotine... he likes to set it up from his butterfly guard. He explains it really well in his X-Guard book.
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Lol what? Garcia has always used the guillotine... he likes to set it up from his butterfly guard. He explains it really well in his X-Guard book.
I think he meant with MMA gloves on...
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I think he meant with MMA gloves on...
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Lol what? Garcia has always used the guillotine... he likes to set it up from his butterfly guard. He explains it really well in his X-Guard book.
Yea I have the book it's a great read for those who don't.

Supposedly he uses the guillotine out of some real crazy positions now with gloves on.

I heard Eddie Bravo say he saw him jump over a guys guard and lock in a guillotine in one motion. Supposedly his guillotine from the top is amazing.
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Yea I have the book it's a great read for those who don't.

Supposedly he uses the guillotine out of some real crazy positions now with gloves on.

I heard Eddie Bravo say he saw him jump over a guys guard and lock in a guillotine in one motion. Supposedly his guillotine from the top is amazing.
I was actually just talking to my BJJ instructor, and he went down to Florida with Hermes Franca to ATT. He said Marcelo rolled with everyone, and tapped everyone like 10 times with the same choke each time. He said he would tell you he was going for the same choke, and he would still get it. lol.
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Yea the guy is just on a different level then everyone else.

No one in the world under about 185 lbs can grapple with Marcelo.
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