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post #11 of 20 (permalink) Old 11-28-2009, 01:43 PM
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Why wouldn't you want Gomi in this show? Nothing wrong with him having one last match in Japan!

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As much as I hate it, Mirko is one of the poster boys for this, if you don't have to be from Japan just awesome there.
That was my first thought after reading the title. I wish CroCop would show up for just one more fight. I want to see one more brutal head kick!
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It is not likely, but we might see that against Ben Rothwell!

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Also, a lot of UFC fighters cut ridiculous amounts of weight, which is not usually the case in Japan. Take Thiago Alves or Anthony Johnson as extreme examples of the "American way." Then, take a look at Nakamura, a very flabby 205-er.

Look at the difference in physique between say, a Tyson Griffin or Sean Sherk at 155, and Caol Uno as additional examples.

Also, tbere's the issue of reach. Japanese fighters, on average, have a shorter reach, at the same height as other fighters.

In effect, Japanese fighters are often fighting a full weight class higher than they should be once they reach the UFC. Akiyama is the most recent example of this.
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Also, a lot of UFC fighters cut ridiculous amounts of weight, which is not usually the case in Japan. Take Thiago Alves or Anthony Johnson as extreme examples of the "American way." Then, take a look at Nakamura, a very flabby 205-er.

Look at the difference in physique between say, a Tyson Griffin or Sean Sherk at 155, and Caol Uno as additional examples.

Also, tbere's the issue of reach. Japanese fighters, on average, have a shorter reach, at the same height as other fighters.

In effect, Japanese fighters are often fighting a full weight class higher than they should be once they reach the UFC. Akiyama is the most recent example of this.
Good points.

Besides Okami, I cant think of a japanese fighter (in the UFC) who'd be considered big in their division.
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Also, a lot of UFC fighters cut ridiculous amounts of weight, which is not usually the case in Japan. Take Thiago Alves or Anthony Johnson as extreme examples of the "American way." Then, take a look at Nakamura, a very flabby 205-er.

Look at the difference in physique between say, a Tyson Griffin or Sean Sherk at 155, and Caol Uno as additional examples.

Also, tbere's the issue of reach. Japanese fighters, on average, have a shorter reach, at the same height as other fighters.

In effect, Japanese fighters are often fighting a full weight class higher than they should be once they reach the UFC. Akiyama is the most recent example of this.
Exactly, great comment.

There are so many fighters who compete in Japan that get mauled in the states and IMO there is no 1 factor here but a collective amount of contributing factors.

Look at the heros who competed there and came up short in the states...Yoshida being one of them. Wanderlei, Mirko, Gono, man there are so many.


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Good points.

Besides Okami, I cant think of a japanese fighter (in the UFC) who'd be considered big in their division.
You don't think Aoki would stack up well in the UFC? Hellboy? Alvarez? Unless you meant ONLY japanese fighters, not just those who fight in Japan, in that case disregard the latter two.

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Alvarez maybe but I see most of the top UFC 55ers being able to keep it on the feet and outstrike Aoki, or TDing Hellboy and beat him on the ground.
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I think its cos not a lot of strength training is included in japanese fighter's regime. They tend to look leaner but not very built unless they are heavyweights. I think they get outmuscled by americans in the ufc

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Unhappy Lack of Strength Training

Coming from someone who spent 8 and a half years over there I can attest to that unfortunately. They don't put a big emphasis on weight training.

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