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vandalian 11-21-2009 01:06 AM

Fighters who are awesome in Japan, but can't seem to get anything going anywhere else
 
I'll start it with Akihiro Gono. Dude subbed Mousasi and UD'd Lombard, but couldn't get his stuff together in UFC, going 1-4.

I'm one of those guys who really wants to see Japanese fighters succeed elsewhere, too, so it's frustrating. It was also frustrating to see Yoshida get KO'd again, because I'm a big fan.

Guess there's Aoki. We'll see...


Xerxes 11-21-2009 01:17 AM

God there are a bunch of them.. I think it's a combo of several things:

- transition from ring to cage obviously.

- different rules, top control and clinching over valued by the judges, elbows on the ground etc

- let's be honest, sometimes they aren't fed easy match ups when they come over to the UFC (probably because they arent marketable in NA). For example Kos and AJ are nightmare match ups for Yoshida, etc.

- and let's not kid ourselves: some of them will under-perform here because of the drug testing policies.


Edit: Aoki would get mauled by almost all of the top UFC 155ers imo.

vandalian 11-21-2009 01:25 AM

Edit: Aoki would get mauled by almost all of the top UFC 155ers imo.

Probably. But I assumed that would happen against Alvarez, too.

Xerxes 11-21-2009 01:38 AM

Eddie got stupid and basically went to mat as soon as he was invited to by Aoki.

Other thing is I feel his wrestling isn't as good as some of the top UFC LWs (Maynard, Frankie, Sherk etc)

Another important factor to consider: he couldn't wear the Aoki pants in the UFC.

BJ would embarrass Aoki imo and the other top LWs (bar Florian maybe) would beat him soundly (in the UFC).

dudeabides 11-21-2009 01:42 AM

As much as I hate it, Mirko is one of the poster boys for this, if you don't have to be from Japan just awesome there.

joshua7789 11-21-2009 02:10 AM

Dennis Kang has looked pretty bad since he came to the UFC.

cdnbaron 11-21-2009 01:39 PM

Hiroyuki Takaya.
Kaz Nakamura.

This doesn't really apply to the same category, but I always wanted Akira Kikuchi to come over to North America, I felt like he'd do well... so much for that idea.

kantowrestler 11-27-2009 03:06 PM

So much for that idea?
 
Why, what happened?

vandalian 11-27-2009 05:52 PM

You referring to his retirement?

Nikkolai 11-28-2009 10:23 AM

I am hoping that Takanori Gomi will not be listed here and wish him success in the U.S.


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